Federal Cyber Experts Thought Microsoft’s Cloud Was “a Pile of Shit.” They Approved It Anyway.

https://lemmus.org/post/20926378

CLOUD is such a fucking rip off!! Anyone with any sense can see that.

My favorite part of Amazon’s Web Service is AWS Outposts.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They will put the AWS cloud in your data center.

You will rent AWS servers and the rack they sit in. You will administer them, power and cool them, handle all the connectivity to the servers and you get to run all the software…

It is such a fucking rip off.

They do that because there are some things that you can’t put in the cloud, like HIPAA protected data. It’s absolutely a rip off, but that was their solution.

You absolutely can store HIPAA data in the cloud.

Latency is one of the big selling points for Outposts. They have customers wanting to control industrial equipment from their cloud resources, but the nearest AWS region is too far away to provide the low latency connectivity they need. With Outposts, they get the cloud, but with on-prem network latency.

HIPAA Compliance

Entities subject to HIPAA compliance can use AWS to process, maintain, and store protected health information. Learn how AWS can help your business.

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There is no certification process in place for using a cloud to store HIPAA data. It even says that on the page that you linked. Legally, any organization that used this service would be opening themselves to further liability under HIPAA.

can you site the part of HIPAA that says that?

There’s no certification for HIPAA defined in law.

No I can’t cite something that doesn’t exist. I literally just said there isn’t one… so I am not sure what your point is.

Legally, any organization that used this service would be opening themselves to further liability under HIPAA.

What legal violation? Because the law says nothing about that.

What?!? The entire purpose of HIPAA is to put liability on misuse of data. At this point, I have no fucking clue what your point is.

Yes, but you talked about how cloud storage vs on prem is a violation.

Put up or shut up.

Also see my edit about a BAA

The answer to your question is in the article you posted… did you even read it?

Have a great day, I’m done talking in circles.

I’m not op, and I’ve Read the actual law.

Believe it or not I pay attention to usernames. I was talking about the link you just posted that mentions the liability assumed by the signers of the BAA.

Maybe read it again? My job requires me to be HIPAA and FERPA certified, I am confident in my interpretation of the situation.

I’m also required to be compliant.

But how can companies like google have products like

https://cloud.google.com/security/compliance/hipaa

if cloud storage is a violation?

HIPAA Compliance on Google Cloud  |  GCP Security

Google Cloud
That’s what he’s saying, they’re in violation. Your comment begs the question “is everything big companies do legal and compliant?”

Violation of what specifically?

Because HIPAA does not say you cant store data with third parties. That would be every cloud EMR out there.

That’s my point though. Is HIPAA says nothing technical about who can store data, just who’s responsible for it getting out.

Yes we get your point, you dont get the point that it leaves them liable to regulators defining it and finding themselves out of compliance with the yet to be defined rules
There’s no legal definition of “yet to be defined” rules. That’s not how the US legal system works. You cant define rules after the fact and call someone guilt/in violation of rules that don’t exist.
Maybe you can’t but the DoJ does it all the time.

And chevron deference is dead.

So its up to judges to determine what the rules are.

Say what you will about the clown courts the US has. But then don’t claim that HIPAA matters at all then. Because its only worth the paper it’s on sure. But then the entire conversation is moot.