Hey what stage of winning is it when our troops are maybe setting fire to their own multi billion dollar warships in order to avoid a war the pedopresident started and has no idea how to finish

@Lana Oh, on the Ford too? At this point, the Navy will be damn lucky if Captain David Skarosi doesn't go full-on Red October with that ship. She's not architected for a deployment this long without taking some downtime in port, she's being run on string and chewing-gum for core livelihood features like working shitters, the crew expected shore leave about a couple months ago, and she was diverted into the path of an armed conflict that sprung up overnight and is not a war.

If it's not a war, it doesn't need commitment of a crew that's almost been at sea for a year now and there should be enough time to sail her home and unclog the damn toilets.

(... and no, I don't think for an instant that the sailors set fire to their own home. I think that when you run a crew ragged and a floating city past its standard operational cycle without taking the time and resources to do the needful, the odds of small problems becoming "an hours long fire" approach 1, and a smart chain of command knows that. And a smart President listens to that chain of command because he might know foreign policy (debatable) but they know boats.)

@mark @Lana
"a smart President". Ah, I remember what that used to be like. 😒