He likes a WOMAN? What a LOSER!
https://piefed.social/c/historymemes/p/1895688/he-likes-a-woman-what-a-loser
He likes a WOMAN? What a LOSER!
https://piefed.social/c/historymemes/p/1895688/he-likes-a-woman-what-a-loser
Explanation: Despite how easy it is to make an “Ancient Rome = Gay” joke here, the truth is that Pompey Magnus, a general and politician of the Late Roman Republic, was scorned for loving two of his wives too much, not for loving a woman instead of a man. His previous marital record was… not stellar, with three divorces in his past… but when he married the daughter of Julius Caesar, he fell madly in love with her, and was apparently quite eager to attend to her and share his problems and interests with her. He also, very rare for an upper-class Roman man, appeared not to carry on affairs while he was married with her.
Julia, for her part, seemed to have taken somewhat after her father, being noted as a charismatic and intelligent soul (and beautiful to boot), and the affection between the married couple was apparently quite mutual, with Julia going the extra mile not just to take care of the household, but to assist and advise Pompey whenever he felt like he needed it. Caesar, who loved his only daughter dearly, also approved of the closeness of the match - of course, Caesar was also accused of being a ‘passive’ homosexual and a mama’s boy, so his approval was perhaps not wholly in the ‘cultural norm’ of his society.
Pompey was often lambasted for choosing to spend time at home, with his WIFE, instead of being out and about doing manly political things like shaking babies and kissing hands, and attending the dinner parties of ultra-wealthy politicians. It was considered by the Romans that excessive affection took a man away from his TRUE calling - DUTY, especially DUTY to the REPUBLIC! For that reason, they considered, curiously, even ‘excessive’ love for one’s wife a ‘feminine’ trait, as Romans associated self-control with masculinity.
… very curious folk, the Romans.
As Pompey became increasingly powerful, the criticism became more muted as the conservatives of the Roman Republic became increasingly pressed to side with the moderate Pompey over the reformist Caesar. Julia had a miscarriage after passing out with fright when Pompey Magnus came home from an election covered in blood (she imagined it was his; it was not), and would die with the child during her next pregnancy not long after, possibly connected to the health problems from her prior miscarriage.
Pompey would be offered another bride after several years of mourning - this one chosen by the conservatives to suit Pompey’s tastes, as revealed by his adoration of Julia. Cornelia Metella, who, like Julia, was noted for her intelligence, depth of interests, and education, and Pompey appeared to adore her very much as well - a happy fourth and fifth marriage to contrast his first three! But marriage to Metella offered no bond to Julius Caesar, and so was a ‘safe’ choice as a wedge was worked between the two men by the conservative faction, kicking off a brutal civil war…
doing manly political things like shaking babies and kissing hands,
LOL
For that reason, they considered, curiously, even ‘excessive’ love for one’s wife a ‘feminine’ trait, as Romans associated self-control with masculinity.
Reminds me of this standup about wanting to be with women because you like soft things being gay, and wanting to get with men being something that’s butch and “hardly gay”.

… very curious folk, the Romans.
Spoken like a true gaul!