Well, That’s One Way to Sell Americans on Electric Cars. The U.S. has been wary of EVs. As the cost of gas soars, we’re now paying the price.

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Well, That’s One Way to Sell Americans on Electric Cars. The U.S. has been wary of EVs. As the cost of gas soars, we’re now paying the price. - sh.itjust.works

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/57043049 [https://sh.itjust.works/post/57043049]

I mean… The main reason is people don’t have money for a new car. Also the electrical infrastructure in this country is not ready for everyone to go electric.

The gas and oil industries have paid TONS of money to keep people locked into gas vehicles.

Once again, the rich continue to fuck the rest of us.

Also the electrical infrastructure in this country is not ready for everyone to go electric.

You’re repeating big oil talking points. We improve the grid all the time, we can continue to do it. Sure if all cars were magically converted into EVs tomorrow we would have big problems, but that’s not how the real world works.

If the grid actually was about to fall over because of a few more EVs, these datacenters spinning up all over the place would be even bigger disasters than they already are.

I’m not using big oil talking points. I’m saying in reality, because of the damage that big oil has done to keep us from going electric, the infrastructure is not currently there.

They’ve paid money to keep us from expanding our grid. They are saying it won’t work because they are making sure it doesn’t.

I completely agree with you that I think it is absolutely possible, but there are bigger things blocking the way.

By repeating their talking points, you are arguing that we should slow EV adoption. You are literally doing their work for them. At least if you worked for BP you could cash a pay check, you’re out here working for them for free.

My dude is that what I said?

I am very anti-big oil. I also acknowledge the fact that big oil has fucked us.

I think if we can break away from their stranglehold on the industry, we can expand our grid and make EV happen. We also have a very large country with nothing in the middle. There are states without any electric chargers installed. It’s a very big hurdle.

I never said we should slow EV adoption. If anything, I think they need to give everybody an electric car for free and make solar panels standard everywhere. But that’s not going to happen because of capitalism.

Name one state with no EV chargers.

Fuck y’all are so fucking pedantic.

Okay, maybe every fucking state has a charger. But some places have not expanded, especially to rural areas.

Jesus fucking Christ. Y’all can’t read extrapolation.

Never comment on anything on the internet. Fucking assholes like y’all chase down every goddamn word.

Yeah, you should probably mean what you say and say what you mean when having a conversation. You have no idea what the current state of ev charging infrastructure looks like, but you’re still acting like an expert.

not PC but, I mean I can tell you the state I live in the closest EV charger is an hour away if that helps your data set on infrastructure knowledge. That’s my primary reason I have no current interest in EV. I firmly agree infrastructure is not there at this time for it in this state. Maybe in the future it will but until I can easily charge my car either at work or without an hour detour it’s a hard not happening for me.

being said, it has gotten better over the last few years so maybe soon?

Should have linked this earlier, but adding it now anyways afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity-locations#%2Ffi… There are very few places in the US where you can be an hour away from the nearest charger.

It’s also kind of a strange situation to explain to people who are used to fuling up at gas stations. I almost never use the fast chargers near my house, I can fill up way cheaper, and way more conveniently at home. The only time I start thinking about fast charging is when I’m driving more than 300 miles in a weekend.

Alternative Fuels Data Center: Electric Vehicle Charging Station Locations

yea those charts can be deceiving at times though , charge finder said I had one within 35 minutes I looked at what it was, the station it said is the old town house, and that’s been disabled/damaged(the charger not the building) due to vandalism since mid covid and was never fixed. The other option shown is the high-school but it’s restricted to students and Staff only and is parking pass enforced. I could likely abuse it via visitor pass, but that’s still 40 minutes to get there, time spent charging and then 40 minutes back. They had a town vote to install a community one a few years back at a town meeting but, there wasn’t enough local support for it to get on the official vote.

Being said, it must be nice having the luxury of charging it at home. I don’t have such luxury. If I could I would have jumped on an EV for my last car when I had to upgrade 5 or 6 years ago

Does your situation not allow a plugin ev? You don’t need to rely on a charging station. There’s a good video about people’s “range anxiety” and breaks down why home charging is adequate for nearly everyone

I had thought about it when i was thinking of getting an EV prior. The answer is “yes”, technically, but I didn’t find it cost effective to do so. I don’t own the building, or pay power utility, its bundled in my rent, and whatever power solution I installed would need to run roughly 150-200 ft feet across a lawn and part of an active driveway to get to my designated parking area(I had considered over or under but that also adds cost). Said parking area has already been designated as non-negotiable as the closer parking is strictly for the landlord’s wife who has mobility issues(fully valid). On top of that I have been instructed to not put a constant load on the outdoor outlet, it according to them has high wear on it and they are worried about the risk of putting something constant on it because it used to run as an input for a generator that ran higher than what the line was actually rated for(old building, was before the requirement of a bypass switch, they used to just kill the main breaker before turning the generator on to prevent backfeed, more dangerous but it was how it was done) and almost burned it out, so any solution would be either rewiring the outdoor outlet line from the fusebox on, or installing a dedicated charger line for it and then running it across prior distance. (which I had at one point thought about)

technically possible, but I don’t think it’s cost effective to do something like that, especially considering even if given permission, it’s for a property I don’t own and don’t know how long I would be living here.