commanderUSB4 v2 is only a year old, and the cable situation is already a mess
This is funny to me because so many people wanted USB-C to be a government mandated, gun pointed to your head standard, and they couldn’t see how now we are stuck with USB-C being the default connector. That never meant you automatically get new protocols running over that wire. You still have to buy new cables.
Sure, but if I don’t need any of the new protocols I can keep using the same chargers, cables, dongles, etc
Gsus4I dont get it, what am I missing if I use USB-C? What is there waiting on the sides that cant use that hardware?
We’re not stuck with USB C until the end of time. If USB D comes out and the USB IF says this is the future then there’s provisions to switch to it.
USBDeeznuts ha got’im
The main motivation behind that is charging, not data transfer. USB-PD has been stable and backwards compatible
You can charge all you want, but when you’re trying to thunderbolt your laptops display to three 4K monitors and grab your USB 2.0 charging cable to do that with, now you might have some bandwidth issues.
Yeah but no one is forcing you to use thunderbolt for displays, I still don’t get your point that forcing adoption of USB-C for charging locks you into the mess that is the rest of the USB standards
Its going to cause issues when you grab a random USB-C cable out of your USB-C cable box and try to use a low bandwidth cable that has USB-C connectors when you need a high bandwidth cable that has USB-C connectors.
I don’t get how thats hard to understand.
Captain AggravatedBecause you’re arguing across purposes.
For most cabling standards thusfar in history, the physical connectors indicated the purpose and capabilities of the cable. This has a 9-pin DIN, it’s an RS-232 serial cable. This has RJ-45s it’s at least a 100BASE-T networking cable. This is HDMI, suitable for attaching a DVD player to a television.
USB has spent the last 30 years fucking that up by trying to make one cable to rule them all…except they’ve made like eight different connector standards, A, B, mini-A, mini-B, micro-A, micro-B, 3B and C. We’ve arrived into a world where we’re allegedly standardizing on the USB-C plug and socket, but it has become damn near impossible to tell by examining the plug, socket or cable what capacities it actually has. A USB 3.1 cable can be outwardly physically identical to a USB4 cable. And they make USB 2.0 cables with A-C or C-C plugs, every smart phone comes with one in the box. None of the high speed data lines are rigged up, only the power and old USB2.0 lines are, so it will transfer data, just very slow.
Now, why do they do that? Because some people actually don’t want the data lines. Because a USB 3.1 and later USB-C cable has like 19 conductors in it. that makes the cable thick and stiff. And if ya basic, all you do is charge thay phone, eat hot chip and lie, a high speed capable cable is difficult to run from the socket behind your headboard up the back of your night stand to the back of your wireless charger, it’s so heavy and stiff that it might pull the empty charger off the table, like an HDMI cord does to a Roku. If ya basic, you don’t care about data transfer speeds because you never transfer data via cable, your phone is a Tiktok and doordash machine. So why would you pay $30 for a single cable that sucks to use?
If instead you’re the kind of umm actually jackass nerd that has a Lemmy account and opinions about systemd, you’ve got two Raspberry Pis on your desk next to the cable your new phone came with, and your phone is plugged into the PC you built with a USB 3.2 rated cable you bought from Cable Matters and then labelled as such with a Brother P-Touch label maker. /autobiography
You don’t know the purpose of a USB-C cable because they all look the same.
Tell me, what is this cable capable of?
there are two cables there.
Judging by the thickness of the cable, they’re USB 2.0 cables intended mainly for charging. A USB 3.x cable is going to be about as thick as the plug body. You vs. the guy she told you not to worry about:
Because I’m the kind of nerd with a Lemmy account and opinions on systemd. I had my own crashout about USB cables a few months ago.
You really need to understand that 99% of the world does not give a shit about your external monitor
lacaio 🇧🇷🏴☠️🇸🇴I think technology standards should be high, to make it highly compatible with anything the user wants to do
Yeah, these things should be backwards compatible in a way
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