@mwl Really love the Dune saga, INCLUDING the stuff written by his son, and I'm with the guy replying. People act like this is some massive insight Frank Herbert had. It's not really. It's more a plot device because he needed the characters to be doing everything with their minds and why would humanity develop the system that required their evolution to develop those skills if there hadn't been same massive argument with computers so bad it lasts 10000 years? That's it. Ooooh...my messiah.