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Show threadProjectArcturisMar 19

> Not very smart itself. How sad to reduce the whole thing to ignorant stereotypes

It's hard to call it an ignorant stereotype when it is the explicit policy of some police departments not to hire smart people. And to go to court to defend that policy.

https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story...

Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

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Show threadmmoossMar 19

> some police departments

There is one story about one police department. Does the sheriff's department in the OP do that? Does it apply to these particular people? If you don't know, it's ignorant and it's a stereotype.

Show threadMoomoomoo309Mar 19

To be fair, there is legal precedent for cops not being too smart.

https://ny.prelawland.com/post/719662253773832192/too-smart-...

They're allowed to not hire someone if their IQ is too high. The stereotype is at the very least based on truth, and has been affirmed legally.

Too Smart for the Job: Jordan v. The City of New London

By Emma Babashak, Columbia University, Class of 2024 June 9, 2023 In the case of Robert Jordan v. City of New London and Keith Harrigan (2000), the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, alleged a violation of...

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Show threadtptacekMar 19

People keep saying this and this case from 2000 is the one instance anybody has been able to cite. Most police agencies use standardized domain-specific written exams --- the PELLETB, NTN, IOS --- that are both not general cognitive exams and have no ceiling score.

This really seems like one of those too-perfect Internet myths that just isn't ever going to die. I think the balance of evidence is that if you picked any police department in the US out at random, it would have the opposite of the incentive claimed in your comment, and no ceiling on general cognitive ability whatsoever.

Show threadMoomoomoo3096d ago
Sure, you can argue that despite being allowed to, most police departments do not discriminate in that way, but the legal precedent provides credence and legitimacy to the stereotype, regardless of its truthfulness, which is what I pointed out. I don't think any real data on this would be available, though, so I think most people (you and I included) just go by vibe, so in the absence of evidence one way or the other, the stereotypes will prevail, regardless of accuracy.
Show threadtptacek6d ago
I would take the counterargument more seriously if anyone could name just one police department that administers IQ tests to applicants.
Show threadTostinoMar 19
Have you watched any of the video from the raid, depositions, or the trial? They are not smart people.