rabiezaaterWhy do people hate AI so much?
https://piefed.social/c/nostupidquestions/p/1890446/why-do-people-hate-ai-so-much
CallMeAl (like Alan)Reading through this thread and your responses gives the strong impression that you just want to argue while at the same time aren’t very well informed on the matter. Where you do respond its mostly whataboutism rather than actually addressing the comment you are responding to.
Your post asks “Why do people hate AI?” and then goes on to validates many of the commonly heard reasons people have for hating AI. You end with a suggestion that if we could develop AI into something else in the future, it might be good.
So it seems you already understand why people hate AI and are promoting an agenda rather than asking a genuine question.
I gave positives along side the negative, which most people vigorously against AI (which seems to be all of the fediverse) refuse to acknowledge as positives. I do have an agenda, which is to try to understand why there is such a blind and vigorous hate for something I and a lot of people find quite useful, and which could be beneficial for productivity if people use it effectively.
I do have an agenda, which is to try to understand…
If your goal is to understand why people feel the way they do then why are you arguing with people and attempting to refute their responses instead of thoughtfully reflecting their concerns back to them to confirm if you have understood?
Are you saying I am being disingenuous in my intentions by making counter points in a discussion? Is reflecting people’s ideas back to them the only way to understand them?
You’re being disingenuous because that’s the only thing you’re doing. You show no signs of actually ingesting or contemplating other points of view, opinions, etc.
What signs would you need to see to believe I am ingesting or contemplating other points of view? I have asked questions, tried to discuss the points that were raised, and even told those I disagree that I appreciate their opinion. For those who have been extra pedantic and focused more on the semantics of the arguments (i.e, you), I have had less patience and curiosity, because those arguments are not really relevant to the actual topic, and more of an ad hominem against me as a person. Overall though, I have not called anyone derogatory names (unlike others in this thread), I have not dismissed someone’s ideas out of hand without providing sources or examples, and I feel I have engaged in a respectful and calm manner. I’m not here to troll anyone, I just would like to discuss the topic I have laid out above. Sorry if my approach has not been what you would have preferred, but to be honest, given that you have not actually contributed to the discussion meaningfully, I frankly don’t give a shit. So I’m done debating my debate style, and if you choose to continue focusing on it, as opposed to the debate topic itself, then I will be removing you from my interactions permanently.
For those who have been extra pedantic and focused more on the semantics of the arguments (i.e, you)
I’ve had 2 comments not including this one, neither of which discussed semantics. You never responded to my other comment.
Overall though, I have not called anyone derogatory names (unlike others in this thread)
While yes, that would indicate bad faith, never said you did that. Can’t speak to others, who shouldn’t do that.
I have not dismissed someone’s ideas out of hand without providing sources or examples, and I feel I have engaged in a respectful and calm manner.
It’s less that you are dismissing things or being disrespectful. It’s that your engagement has a pattern where you aren’t engaging at all with certain points that is very obvious. Your positive bias toward LLMs shows. Whether it is due to legitimate bias or stark contrast within the thread due to a very polarizing topic is tricky to parse but definitely comes off that you are invested in LLMs and are unwilling to acknowledge the downsides in a meaningful way. E.g. your outright dismissal of the lack of ethics because it doesn’t offend you personally and find those that complain to be hypocrites.
Sorry if my approach has not been what you would have preferred, but to be honest, given that you have not actually contributed to the discussion meaningfully, I frankly don’t give a shit.
Again, do you think you’re responding to someone else? I rattled off a pile of common complaints to which you never responded. At no point did I accuse you of anything or even remark upon your character directly other than observing the stated pattern of avoidance. One inference could possibly be made with my rebuttal of your ethics argument, but it’s kind of a stretch.