YSK that Joseph Stalin created the Great Terror. He started killing people randomly including artists, generals, doctors, scientists, government officials. Everyone was terrified.

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YSK that Joseph Stalin created the Great Terror. He started killing people randomly including artists, generals, doctors, scientists, government officials. Everyone was terrified. - sh.itjust.works

Matvei Bronstein: Theorical physicist. Pioneer of quantum gravity. Arrested, accused of fictional “terroristic” activity and shot in 1938 Lev Shubnikov: Experimental physicist. Accused on false charges. Executed Adrian Piotrovsky: Russian dramaturge. Accused on false charges of treason. Executed. Nikolai Bukharin: Leader of the Communist revolution. Member of the Politburo. Falsely accused of treason. Executed. General Alexander Egorov: Marshal of the Soviet Union. Commander of the Red Army Southern Front. Member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. Arrested, accused on false charges, executed. General Mikhail Tukhachevsky Supreme Marshal of the Soviet Union. Nicknamed the Red Napoleon. Arrested, accused on fake charges. Executed. Grigory Zinoviev: Chairman of the Communist International Movement. Member of the Soviet Politburo. Accused of treason and executed. Even the secret police themselves were not safe: Genrikh Yagoda : Right-hand of Joseph Stalin. Head of the NKD Secret Police. He spied on everyone in Russia and jailed thousands of innocents. Yagoda was arrested and executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda] Nikolai Yezhov : Appointed head of the NKD Secret Police after the death of Yagoda. Arrested on fake charges, executed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov] Everybody was absolutely terrified during this period. At least 600 000 people were killed and over one million people were deported to Gulags in Siberia.

To place Russian communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral plane, in that both would be totalitarian, is superficial at best, fascism at worst.

Whoever insists on this equation may well consider himself a democrat, in truth and in the bottom of his heart he is in fact already a fascist, and certainly only in a hypocritical and insincere way will he fight fascism, while reserving all his hatred for communism.

  • Thomas Mann

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So if OP did not include the last line, they would not necessarily be a fascist, but because of the last line they are definitely a fascist.

What is the reasoning behind that conclusion? I can see how comparing the two simply because they’re totalitarian would be superficial (there are many structural differences between both). And to me, what the Nazis did, the rhetoric they used and their rise to power has always felt much more ominous and foreboding than even Stalin’s.

But I can’t put it into words and I see no real reason why Stalin’s crimes and death camps would in any way be less evil than the Nazis’. To me it feels like Nazis went beyond just political power straight into core beliefs and ideology, whereas Stalin’s crimes were just your typical tyrant authoritarian maneuvering, but I don’t know if that really makes an ethical difference.

Here is a larger context of the quote, run it through some translator if you don’t know german

Mit anderen Worten: diese Jugend anerkennt mit Herz und Sinn das Gebot, die Freiheit durch soziale Verantwortlichkeit zu be- dingen, die Demokratievom Nationalen zu emanzipieren und sie weltweit, universell zu machen, den Frieden aufeine kollektivisti- sche Freiheit zu gründen, deren Ausdruck und Garant der den Nationalregierungen übergeordnete Weltstaat wäre. Die Vorbe- dingung dafür, jeder weiß es, ist die Verständigung unserer westli- chen Welt mit Rußland, die Begegnung des bürgerlich-demokra- tischen und des sozialistischen Prinzips in der Anerkennung gemeinsamer menschheitlicher Ziele.

Ist eine solche Verständigungund Begegnungmöglich? Die »Rea- listen« verneinen die Frage. Ihre Antwort ist Krieg. Ich zweifle, ob sie wissen, was sie sagen, ob sie, ganz wörtlich gesprochen, bei Verstande sind, indem sie so antworten. Ihr Sinnistdick umnebelt vom Interesse, dem erbitterten und zu allem fähigen Interesse an der integralen und zugeständnislosen Erhaltung der »Freiheit«, die sie meinen, der kapitalistischen Wirtschaftsform in ihrer veraltetsten, unangepaßtesten Gestalt. Diese Verstocktheit impli- ziert den Unglauben an die Entwicklungsfähigkeit anderer Mächte und Systeme, zum Beispiel an diejenige der russischen Revolution, deren radikaler und tyrannischer Kollektivismus der humanen Überlieferung des Westens ein für allemal als der Erz- und Todfeind gegenüberstehen, und deren totalitärer Zwang sich von dem faschistisch-nationalsozialistischen in nichts unterschei- den soll. Wenn kein Unterschied besteht zwischen dem Totali- tätscharakter des russischen Sozialismus und des Faschismus, — woher dann, so kann man fragen, die einhellige Entschiedenheit, mit welcher überall die kapitalistische Welt dem faschistischen Schrecken vor dem kommunistischen den Vorzug gibt, ihr offen- kundiger Entschluß, lieber den einen anzunehmen als den ande- ren? - Die russische Revolution ist, wie einst die große Französi- sche, ein historischer Prozeß, der sich in Phasen abspielt, von denen die letztekaumschon gekommen ist. Esistso unvernünftig, eine dieser Phasen unter Hohngeschreimitderanderenerschlagen zu wollen, wie es unvernünftig ist, zu glauben, der Stalinismus bilde die unveränderliche Endform des revolutionären Prozesses. Den russischen Kommunismus mit dem Nazi-Faschismus auf die gleiche moralische Stufe zu stellen, weil beide totalitär seien, ist besten Falles Oberflächlichkeit, im schlimmeren Falle ist es - Faschismus. Wer auf dieser Gleichstellung beharrt, mag sich als Demokrat vorkommen, -in Wahrheitund im Herzensgrundister damit bereits Faschistund wirdmitSicherheitden Faschismus nur unaufrichtig und zum Schein, mit vollem Haß aber allein den Kommunismus bekämpfen.

Die Unterschiede im Verhältnis des russischen Sozialismus und des Faschismus zur Humanität, zur Idee des Menschen und seiner Zukunft sind unermeßlich. Der unteilbare Friede; konstruktive Arbeit und gerechter Lohn; ein allgemeiner Genuß der Güter dieser Erde; mehr Glück, weniger vermeidbares und nur vom Menschen verschuldetes Leid hienieden; die geistige Hebung des Volkes durch Erziehung, durch Wissen, durch Bildung-das alles sind Ziele, die denjenigen faschistischer Misanthropie, faschisti- schen Nihilismus, faschistischer Erniedrigungslust und Verdum- mungspädagogik diametral entgegengesetzt sind. Der Kommu- nismus, wie die russische Revolution ihn unter besonderen menschlichen Gegebenheiten zu verwirklichen sucht, ist, trotz aller blutigen Zeichen, die daran irre machen könnten, im Kern — und sehr im Gegensatz zum Faschismus — eine humanitäre und eine demokratische Bewegung. Tyrannei? Er ist es. Aber eine Tyrannei, die das Analphabetentum ausmerzt, kann, ob sie es weiß oder nicht, im Herzen nicht gewillt sein, Tyrannei zu bleiben. Vor einigen sechzig Jahren verspottete Nietzsche, ein sehr großer, nur allzu vieldeutiger Denker, die Volksbildung, indem er ausrief: »Will man Sklaven, so ist man ein Narr, wenn man sich Herren erzieht!« DerrussischeSozialismus willoffenbar keine Sklaven, denn er erziehtsichdenkende Menschen. Damitist er, beinahe unweigerlich, auf dem Wege zur Freiheit.

from “Thomas Mann Essays - Band 2 Politik” published by Hermann Kurzke pg 310-312

Yeah, I think that managed to put my feeling into more concise words. Russian socialism cost many many lives, but at its core the principles it was trying to champion seem correct: it proposes fairness and dignity through the active improvement of people’s education and lives. Whereas fascist movements (Hitler, Mussolini, Trump) are actively destructive. They thrive off of people’s hatred and fear of “the other”.

I guess my main question would be… If the Soviet Union was truly raising thinking, critical workers that would one day not become slaves, then how is it possible that immediately after its collapse, Russia became almost immediately a fascist state that indeed allowed only slaves and never masters to exist beyond its oligarchy?

Something seems amiss in the proposition there. It seems to me like fascism is almost an unavoidable illness that comes to all societies sooner or later, and the only thing we can do is find ways to weaken it before it leads to catastrophic results.

MAGA will be a good example of how fascism comes to its end within societies that cannot be militarily opposed.

I guess my main question would be… If the Soviet Union was truly raising thinking, critical workers that would one day not become slaves, then how is it possible that immediately after its collapse, Russia became almost immediately a fascist state that indeed allowed only slaves and never masters to exist beyond its oligarchy?

The soviet union was an absolute academic powerhouse, for instance they won every space-race except the first walk on the moon. Women were particularly empowered this video essay is really really good www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTlejH-WzQ

The collapse of the USSR was a betrayal from the top orchestrated with western companies that gutted the former socialist republics. Women with PhD’s were suddenly not being hired anymore and many were forced into sex work in order to survive. They even held a referendum in the months prior to legitimize the dissolution but the vast majority of the population voted in favor of keeping communism en.wikipedia.org/…/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum .

The Truth About Women’s Liberation in the USSR

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providing an essential academic counter-narrative to the rampant demonization of one of fascism’s most ardent enemies.

That seems awfully generous for a man that signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and only became an ardent enemy of the Nazi’s after they backstabbed him. I don’t have the time to energy to dive deeper before saying this sounds like one hell of an apologist for one of history’s most evil authoritarians and I have no desire to engage with it further. This man did not care for his comrades and anyone that equates him with any form of socialism is just poisoning socialism in the general public.

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia

There’s no argument in this citation. Just a dumb, unfounded opinion