Always remember what we're fighting for!

https://lemmy.world/post/44427898

I have now deemed this true in my head cannon.
If it really is true, I cannot stress enough just how bad it is. Like, really really bad.
Good. It’s a farce and should be treated as such
Halfway Post is a satire site. This is not true.
yeah I didn’t figure it was true. but had to say it still just in case. And whoever wrote it knew what they were implying / trying to generate internet feelings. Because again, it would be epic bad if troops in training, this early in, were THAT cynical.
Art imitates life: huffpost.com/…/trump-troops-iran-war-israel_n_69b… … I know it’s just one article, and it’s HuffPo … but it is just the first one I found this morning. My own contacts agree morale is low, and not just for those in uniform. Civil service types are not happy either. Like, the ones that help ensure logistics flow, intelligence flows, provide depot MX support, etc. It is wide spread and coming on the heals of a massive exodus of expertise. I just had a former client reach out to me 4 weeks ago about a potential direct-hire job opportunity but I didn’t see it until last last week. When I replied back their response was, “yeah you don’t want this now. Things are not good around here.” IT’S THEIR BRANCH THEY ARE HIRING FOR! Think about that, they just said, effectively, ‘don’t come work for me, it isn’t worth it’
“An Absolute Disaster”: Troops Express Fears As Trump Expands Iran War

The possibility of an American ground operation in Iran is growing, but one service member familiar with troops in the region told HuffPost the prospect would be "an absolute disaster."

HuffPost
Is this a Fallout 4 reference?
No. An honest assessment about just how bad it is if you’re troops are already THAT cynical before they even leave garrison and aren’t trying to hide it. I doubt it’s true though.
Do you load that with regular cannonballs?
Too small for that, you have to load it with regular balls.
Maximum pee storage this way
grapeshot like the founding fathers intended
Tally Ho, lads!
It’s better than 6 7 because it actually means something
It doesn’t mean anything if they still commit war crimes.
Nah it just means they’re willing to commit crimes against humanity for the Epstein class
Yeah but, they’re committing war crimes ironically.
it was just a shibollet, not the first, not the last

Ah yes, a shibboleth.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOd3lwluQIw

Unlike their service in Iran.

67 is fine. It took me a while to realise that.

It has exactly the same rules as The Game except you win when you hear 67. I think that’s pretty nice.

I mean 6 time 7 does equal 42 the answer to life, universe, and everything. So these kids do makes sense when you multiple it.
Bold to assume these kids know how to multiply.
But the question is “what do you get when you multiply seven by nine?” So really they’re just making things worse.
I have trouble believing that the military can’t control recruits in training.

lol

I can tell you’ve never been in the military, then.

Oh I haven’t. But isn’t the discipline pretty strict? I mean I’m sure they get all kinds of randos enlisting, but aren’t they controlled very strictly during their training, to prepare them to follow orders well later?

I’m genuinely curious here. Feel free to educate me.

Naw, people are people no matter the situation. If you were an asshole before you join it’s not like you’ll just not be an asshole. You gotta make a choice to change and some people absolutely don’t take that path.

And you’d be surprised what people will do knowing the consequences. Some people really just don’t give a fuck lol

For example, while on restriction for getting a dui, one guy was told to clean the company commanders office. Took that as an opportunity to stand on the officers desk with a mop and cartoonishly slosh water over all his paperwork / mop the computer ect ect. He only got 30 more days of restrictions for that.

Feel free to ask me whatever if you’re curious.

So it’s quite the shit show? I never had any illusions enlisting would change anyone, and in fact I d expect the military to get more problematic people than average. I just thought they were decent at managing them.
It’s a huge mix of absolutely following the rules and orders when it’s important* but being a bunch of really big idiots and acting like teenagers at all other times.
Boot camp was filled with some of the funniest shit I ever experienced in my life. Sometimes you just take the PT punishment cuz the laugh was worth it. Sometimes your drill instructor even breaks.

Humerous…

…But I see a blue checkmark, and I downvote. Nothing personal, but I will not support Twitter even indirectly.

What a dumb hill to die on. It’s a screenshot, we’re not even on Twitter.

every time they salute each other

That’s how you know for sure it’s fake. Soldiers in training don’t salute each other. They only salute officers.

You can be training for an invasion without being in basic training, or are we to assume there are no continuous improvement efforts in the military?

Who said anything about basic training?

Soldiers don’t go around saluting each other, no matter what stage of training they’re in.

Deployed in the field, no. In garrison, yes.

Soldiers salute comissioned officers regularly, except in very specific circumstances.

Soldiers salute non-commissioned officers (enlisted with rank sergeant and above) very rarely in very specific circumstances.

Soldiers (enlisted below the rank of sergeant) never salute each other except maybe as a joke. It’s just not a thing.

Soldiers (enlisted below the rank of sergeant) never salute each other except maybe as a joke.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. The claim is that soldiers are jokingly saluting each other in honor of the Epstein class. I find it inconceivable that there aren’t groups of corporals jokingly saluting each other over the Epstein/Israel/Trump situation, especially after headlines like these came out. I find it incredibly hard to image they aren’t jokingly saluting like-minded NCOs as well. And surely, there are some lieutenants telling them all to knock of off.

The guy I was originally responding to seems to have a nothing-ever-happens mentality, and I couldn’t disagree more.

Halfway Post is also a satire sure like The Onion.
For sure, and this headline has been circulating for weeks. If no soldiers were jokingly saluting about the obvious military manipulation by the Epstein-class before, then some have surely been inspired by this satirical post.
Did you serve at all or are you just saying things?
He served it al dente, obviously

Actually, the name is inspired by an anti-binary mentality. I tend to disagree with black and white labels, and instead believe that most things can be found on the gradient between two extremes. I think this is reinforced by the idea that change is constant, and if you were to somehow become the 100% embodiment of an idea, it would only last for an infinitely small period of time as you bounce off the binary rev limiter, since you can’t go past it.

To me, al dente represents a place on the gradient that just feels right. Al dente literally means “to the tooth”, and is found by taking a bite to check if pasta is starting to become cooked, while still retaining some firmness. It’s not undercooked, and it’s not overcooked.

On the topic of the OP, I see the outright dismissals as one of the binary extremes. Even if the screenshot was of a parody account, it seems obsurd to say that this isn’t happening and is misinformation. Israel and the Epstein class have such an obviously significant influence over US military. Surely soldiers have noticed, and if no one was jokingly saluting “for Epstein” before, some would have been inspired by this headline since it has been circulating for a few weeks now.

Asking basically every coworker I have that’s served and that’s like 4 navy guys 3 marines 4 army dudes. They all basically confirmed what that guy said.

If it was for a joke they 100% would sarcasticly have saluted each other and made dumb jokes.

Source: your pasta extruder.
I guess your right, saluting was just a fad and nobody does that in the military anymore, not even to joke about serving Israel and the Epstein-class. Although, I stand by the comment about not saluting when deployed. In combat zones, a salute can indicate to the enemy who is higher ranking, and is normally prohibited.
God damnit, I wanted this to be true so badly.
If it makes you feel better, it is 100% something marines would do (not the saluting). At least until higher ups started threatening
You can also tell it’s fake because of common sense. But that’s a rare trait these days.
Satire account 😔
What gave it away?