It wasn’t about nuclear doctrine, it wasn’t about the Epstein files (altho Usaian libs and leftists really love to believe this), it was and has always been about China

W-w-what?

80-90% of Iran’s oil exports go to China. Iran is very much an important part of China’s ambitions of building influence outside the US hegemony, it has been receiving supersonic anti-ship missiles from China - which have been specifically designed to target US carriers, it has been supplied with Chinese cyber infrastructure and taken part in naval exercises and military technology to challenge US regional dominance. By targeting Iran before at this moment in time, US is indirectly targeting China’s oil supply and attempt at regional influence. From China’s point of view, if you tie USA in the Middle East its much harder for them to pivot to Asia when it is needed.

All of these things have lead me to strongly believe that this is not about the nuclear doctrine, neither about the Epstein files and definitely not it being a Israel-led war. Israel is certainly a great beneficiary of this conflict, but certainly not the head of this operation - USA is.

…columbia.edu/where-china-gets-its-oil-crude-impo…

What the hell are you talking about…this has nothing to do with china. They don’t get the majority of their oil from Iran, and they have been importing it even through sanctions anyways.

I swear you tankies will try and make shit fit around your “usa bad, china good” logic any way possible.

They don’t get the majority of their oil from Iran

Nowhere did I claim that. My claim was and it is factually correct that out of all of Iran’s oil exports 80-90% go to China, not that 80-90% of China oil imports come from Iran.

you tankies

LOL
Never been called a tankie.
Guess there’s a first for everything.

“usa bad, china good”

What are you even on, mate. Just because I’m explaining what I think its USA’s foreign policy that doesn’t mean I agree with the authoritarian pigs controlling China, let alone with the islamist terrorists occupying and oppressing Iran.

Get a fucking grip, buddy.

Nowhere did I claim that. My claim was and it is factually correct that out of all of Iran’s oil exports 80-90% go to China, not that 80-90% of China oil imports come from Iran.

Which do not make up much of the oil china gets. Hell the USA is getting more fucked than china is right now.

LOL
Never been called a tankie.
Guess there’s a first for everything.

Considering how quickly you jumped into the whataboutism when china is called out?

What are you even on, mate. Just because I’m explaining what I think its USA’s foreign policy that doesn’t mean I agree with the authoritarian pigs controlling China, let alone with the islamist terrorists occupying and oppressing Iran.

But you didn’t really, you just went into a usa bad rant, and called out the source. The Belt and road initiative alone is basically slavery from china to Africa. They know the countries cannot ever pay the debt off. China is pulling a EU 2.0 that did that shit 100s of years ago. Just using nicer terms.

Hell the USA is getting more fucked than china is right now.

I very much disagree. Whatever economical pain USA is going through is only temporary. Meanwhile the threat to China is having its regional partner clowned on so much so that when shit hit the fan and Iran needed help, what did China do? Nothing. Nada.
USA basically went to the middle east and told China “oh, these are your M.E. partners that you plan on relying upon to challenge my hegemony? look what I can do to them, lol"
And China was Iran’s best bet for strategic protection, but when shit hits the fan they were shown that neither China nor Russia will come to their aid.

Considering how quickly you jumped into the whataboutism when china is called out?

You’re talking nonsense and assuming some wild things. Just because I’m explaining what I think USA’s foreign policy is in the middle east that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with it, let alone me agreeing or disagreeing with what China is doing.
I can very well talk shit on both of them, just as well as I can agree with only some particular actions and not the others.
It is possible to ride a bike and chew gum at the same time.

I very much disagree. Whatever economical pain USA is going through is only temporary. Meanwhile the threat to China is having its regional partner clowned on so much so that when shit hit the fan and Iran needed help, what did China do? Nothing. Nada.
USA basically went to the middle east and told China “oh, these are your M.E. partners that you plan on relying upon to challenge my hegemony? look what I can do to them, lol”
And China was Iran’s best bet for strategic protection, but when shit hits the fan they were shown that neither China nor Russia will come to their aid.

That goes both ways though, we haven’t really told China to fuck off when they are bashing our Philippine allies and basically threatening Taiwan which again we haven’t done really shit to support and tell them to fuck off. I honestly believe the only reason that china hasn’t invaded yet is because of TSMC having their plants rigged to blow, which fucks china right now…once china has its plants online and near the tech that TSMC produces then all bets are off.

You’re talking nonsense and assuming some wild things. Just because I’m explaining what I think USA’s foreign policy is in the middle east that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with it, let alone me agreeing or disagreeing with what China is doing.
I can very well talk shit on both of them, just as well as I can agree with only some particular actions and not the others.
It is possible to ride a bike and chew gum at the same time.

Fair enough.

we haven’t really told China to fuck off when they are bashing our Philippine allies and basically threatening Taiwan which again we haven’t done really shit to support and tell them to fuck off

“we” have done things in that regard though.
but it actually depends on what you mean by telling China to “fuck off”. From the diplomatic point of view, the west & co has constantly voiced their opinion and put pressure on China in regards to its actions in the Philippines waters.

Besides diplomacy, another way of telling China to “fuck off” is via military presence, which has also been increased. Philippines is becoming more central strategically. Two months ago you have allies like Australia making commitments of military investment in the Philippines. Japan is also getting more involved.

People often get frustrated that these kind of measures seem “soft” because there’s no dramatic back and forth between the parties involved, but what else is there to be done? Attacking China’s ships and risking all of this to devolve in a massive war between the biggest powers of the planet resulting in a world-wide crisis? Nobody wants that.