Asta [AMP]oil capital can't help but pollute open source, huh. Gotta get those oily fingers into every fucking open source project, twould seem.
fuck it man, gonna make my own vim out of vendored copies of readline and ncurses
I did get a response on whether Helix has a policy re: LLM usage or not
https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/15408
I wouldn't call it encouraging because I don't agree that it's useful (nevermind ethical) but I wouldn't call it discouraging, either, because they're clearly aware that it can produce a lot of unhelpful, time wasting crap.
https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/15408
I wouldn't call it encouraging because I don't agree that it's useful (nevermind ethical) but I wouldn't call it discouraging, either, because they're clearly aware that it can produce a lot of unhelpful, time wasting crap.
Policy on accepting PRs that include LLM generated code? · helix-editor helix · Discussion #15408
Hello! I've just been checking out Helix recently, and I quite enjoy what I've seen so far! It's fast, intuitive, ships a lot of nice defaults, and works well with what I've used it for thus far! I...
I haven't had the time or mental fortitude to construct a diplomatic reply that might encourage them to consider the ethical side that isn't just me ranting but if anyone wants to politely and gently nudge them towards considering the ethical drawbacks and license implications...
on the other hand, never a better time to greenfield the entire field of computing
just fucking NIH the whole damn stack
/s sorta
just fucking NIH the whole damn stack
/s sorta
Irenes (many)@aud yeahhhhhh we fantasize about what our Forth could become ...... if there were world enough, and time...
@ireneista it feels low key ridiculous to start wondering if the time is now to make a genuine linux fork because I am not qualified for that buuuuut
@aud we certainly know people with every relevant field of expertise, the problem with it is just that it's too big. the way to go would be to make a new kernel (or adopt an existing smaller one)
@aud .... but our self-monitoring heuristics tell us to be cautious of .... this thing https://irenes.space/leaves/2024-09-29-technology-community-idealism
@aud we coined the term "the cybernetic bias" for a slightly different impulse in another of our Leaves a bit after that piece, but trying to reference it just now, they feel like two facets of the same thing to us. we may have to write another piece sorting that out
@aud but yeah as we were saying elsewhere
there really is a rising tide of hate and willful negligence projecting themselves throughout the free software world
we really do need to think about more-organized ways to fight back
@aud at the end of the day, to the forces of hate, software is a tool in the demeaning sense - "only a tool", its purpose is the thing it achieves for you
whereas to an awful lot of disabled, neurodivergent queer techies, software is a tool in the sense of "this is the thing I use to make my art, so I have learned everything about its history and how it's made and I love it deeply"
and the latter is a stronger position. it's not even on the same level.
@ireneista this is so well, and succinctly, stated. Software is a thing that allows me to express myself; to make art; to communicate; to interact with the world; to expand my boundaries; to meet other queers; to hear music; to make music; to have community in isolated places...
... and to them, well, it's just a way of disempowering labor and doxxing/harassing minorities.
... and to them, well, it's just a way of disempowering labor and doxxing/harassing minorities.
@ireneista to a young, isolated closeted trans queer in rural mormon Utah in the 90s, with no queer elders, no physical transportation, no money, no hope of community... the internet was it. That was literally it. All the possible ways I had to interact physically with the humans around me invariably involved religion and queer hate. So perhaps that's why it all feels so deeply personal to see it attacked.
Violet MadderThe first time people were nice to me on the internet I sat down and cried. It's home.
Our home and the future is being stolen from us.
@violetmadder @aud we will win. always believe that. the challenge we face is just to figure out how.
Tiota Sram@ireneista @violetmadder @aud YMMV, but I take solace in the facts that:
- Those currently despoiling the internet are part of an inherently unsustainable cult. The way in which it collapses matters *a lot* since they could take the habitability of the planet with them, but their collapse is literally inevitable.
- If I have to become a strange hermit using weird alternate tech that the rest of society mostly doesn't understand, I'm 100% okay with that. I'd *like* to win a culture war and help liberate a bunch of people (myself included, because imagining oneself as a liberating hero is a great way to set oneself up for failure), but when contemplating the difficulty of that and the chances of failure, I find it reassuring to imagine stages of partial failure in which I retain at least some agency.
@aud yeah and when we finally got into the industry we looked around and realized that nobody else cares about any of this in the same way.... except the other queer people, who had been having very much the same kind of isolated story as ours, in parallel, but each of us alone...
it's a very, very powerful thing to no longer be alone, and more than that, to realize that it was always just because society wouldn't allow us to find each other, that we always had the raw numbers
@aud the assault feels very personal to us, too
but people like us actually outnumber Nazis, going by every indication, and we're the ones who are actually decent at strategy