MTZMar 18

Human experimentation, one way or the other.

https://lemmy.world/post/44414566

Show threadgandalf_der_12te

The curse of vaccines is that they’re victims of their own success. They are so successful in fact that people forget why we need them in the first place. That’s why we unfortunately need a control group.

Thankfully some people volunteer for that role …

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Show threadBreadOvenMar 19

I don’t know what word I want to use. Not unintelligent, not really dumb or ignorant (although the people who blindly follow others who tell them they’re bad are), stupid? But at the top it seems like there’s people saying this stuff who are seemingly none of those. Malignant, I guess?

Either way, people need to realize how important vaccines are.

Show threadCovfefeKillsMar 19
Oh are you thinking of state level disinformation campaigns? If only there was some evidence that you could find to prove those things exist. Hmmm what ever will you do? nah, speculating on lemmy is the only thing we can do. Them misinformation spreaders are bad amirite
Show threadBreadOvenMar 20

I’m not from the states. But merely questioning the motives of whoever is starting these disinformation campaigns. Vaccines work and keep people safe. Bottom line. No one can successfully argue the contrary.

Are you doing okay?

Show threadCovfefeKillsMar 20
Hmmm if only there was proof of these state sponsors information warfare campaigns using anti-vax misnformation. Hmm no better stick to misunderstanding sarcasm on lemmy and then speculating on things I could probably verify. Them misinfo spreaders are bad, am i right or what?
Show threadBreadOvenMar 20
Wooosh.
Show threadCovfefeKillsMar 20
If only.
Show threadBreadOvenMar 20
What are you even trying to argue?
Show threadCovfefeKillsMar 20
You are the problem: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6137759/
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Show threadTankovayaDiviziyaMar 19
I feel like the antivaxxers are more concentrated in the developed north because of privileges; from having better access to healthcare, better economy, and less prevalence of deadlier diseases because of colder climate. So they get treatment more easily if they need one, and don’t see nasty diseases. Meanwhile, the global south tend to believe more in vaccinations because diseases in warmer climate are more common and deadlier.
Show threadgandalf_der_12teMar 19

yeah there’s definitely a correlation between temperature and diseases/infection.

it’s well known for example that the Thai and Spanish people all eat very spicy food because it disinfects the body from the inside out. Which reduces diseases. That only works for bacteria though, not viruses.

Show threadpetrol_sniff_kingMar 19
:o
I never even thought of that.
See, mom? I’ve been collecting ulcers for good reason!
Show threadgandalf_der_12teMar 19
? what do ulcers have to do with it?
Show threadpetrol_sniff_kingMar 19

It was a joke, but the joke was that capsaicin causes ulcers.

It’s actually a common myth, it seems. Whoops. :p

Show threadgandalf_der_12teMar 19
what’s capsaicin?
Show threadpetrol_sniff_kingMar 19
Capsaicin is the spicy chemical found in peppers and whatnot. It’s what actually causes the ‘heat’.
Show threadgandalf_der_12teMar 19
ah i see.
Show threadaphonefriendMar 19
Someone should send that memo to Florida man.
Show threadjustmeMar 19
The phrase “there is no glory in prevention” is well known in related fields
Show threadgandalf_der_12teMar 19
unfortunately :/
Show threadUnderpantsWeevilMar 19

I mean, you say that. But we have a quarterly all-hands office meeting at my company. Every meeting kicks off with “This is how many accidents we had this quarter. We are aiming for ZERO accidents. Zero Is Achievable.” And in the quarters we’ve had zero accidents, the upper management makes a big deal out of it.

There have been a number of campaigns to eliminate certain viruses from the human population - smallpox being the most famous. And there was quite a bit of glory doled out to celebrate the regional elimination of these contagions.

It’s possible to make prevention a celebrated endeavor. But you do have to prioritize it. And you can’t run away and blow it off when you fail. I think the real “no glory” issue is in bungled preventative campaigns. Far easier to insist vaccinations don’t work than to acknowledge our pre-Trump efforts at vaccinating the population have been half-assed and profit-motivated.