Mastodawn

Ozzelot

@justine i want fish pajamas

Tomáš Mar 18

@ozzelot @justine walmart has them

Ozzelot

@prahou
i forgot to context switch from snac and briefly thought walmart had via isaiah processors

well, at some point, it might've had them tucked away somewhere
@justine

@justine i used to be interested in installing openbsd on something but never got around to doing it.

Justine Smithies Mar 18

Go on. You know you should. ;)

@justine at this point i've been nixos-pilled and i'm in too deep

also what do you like about openbsd? i was curious about it because security and also because i haven't used a bsd.

Justine Smithies Mar 18

I love it's simplicity and at the same time it's security with the added bonus that the excellent devs do not try to follow the crowd. I've been a BSD user for a while using FreeBSD but OpenBSD just seems to appeal to me more. I was a long time Linux user but I'm not keen on the way that's heading now although I'd take it any day over microslops OS.

@justine yeah it sounds cool. the image that openbsd always bring to mind is that of an thinkpad x200, with all its 4:3 glory, running it.

@athousandcateaus @justine cvsweb.openbsd.org/ports/sysut…

silverwizard Mar 18

You can have it all!

OpenBSD CVS Repository

@silverwizard tempting.... i actually didn't know nix was available on any of the bsds.

that being said, nixos allows the management of system services and state. with just nix you can only do user-level management. even so that's probably about 75% of the way there because most things that happen on a desktop system are user-level configuration/services.

Antony Mar 20

@silverwizard @athousandcateaus @justine Does that actually work on obsd? I thought it was just Linux and MacOS.

×××××Mar 20

@afb @silverwizard @justine yeah, it may be a case of not being officially supported by nix, but potentially works?

also nix works on other things too, like wsl2 and there's a fork of termux called nix-on-droid that is just a nix environment.

xenia

@justine i actually have openbsd on my laptop, and i'm considering getting an old thinkpad just to install openbsd on it

Reid

@justine @prahou fish pajamas on the store when?

SuspiciousDuck Mar 18

@justine @prahou pretty sure

the thing

@[email protected] @prahou i wish i could :(
even when i tried freebsd, which is the most widely used bsd, it didn't like my iGPU or network card; so graphics didn't really work and networking didn't work most of the time...

why/how should i expect openbsd to be better?

Justine Smithies Mar 18

You can only try but maybe you good look up your hardware here to see what's supported on FreeBSD and OpenBSD.

https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi

CC: @[email protected]

NYC*BUG dmesgd

New York City BSD User Group dmesgd

[email protected] has moved Mar 18

@justine

Now, that's the spirit !

ᴏᴏᴍ-ᴋɪʟʟᴇʀ: 333 Mar 18

@justine @prahou its a project for any day and always a good time. tomáš really does some amazing work. i hope to have a tattoo commission one day

Tomáš Mar 18

@jae @justine bless you and your devices! <3

jhx Mar 19

@justine @prahou
I'd say go for it 😎

Zenie Mar 20

@justine @prahou
I love BSD. I ran it for years.

But now I'm on linux because
I've embraced sustainability and I use little ARM SBCs for most of my computers. ARM isn't well supported by BSD.
It really needs to be. I'd drop Linux like a hot potato

I really don't like it that much, Armbian, the best ARM distro by far has just dropped Debian releases. They are all Ubuntu gnome. Both of which I detest. I refuse.

I've been looking at making my own images.

Andrew Ball Mar 20

@Zenie @justine @prahou I find #NetBSD/evbarm works on the 32-bit boards. People tell me it (partially) works on some 64-bit boards but not mine. In fairness I think there's a lack of documentation for the SoCs.