Danielle ForéMar 18

“Complying in advance” is when you go out of your way to do things that you don’t have to do to support authoritarian overreach.

“Complying in advance” is not when you follow laws that have passed and have clearly defined penalties

Learn what phrases mean, maybe

Show threadDanielle ForéMar 18

Denying trans kids healthcare or refusing to update passports with correct gender markers because of an unenforceable executive order: complying in advance

IDing customers in a bar because serving alcohol to a minor is illegal and you will get your liquor license revoked and have to shut down your bar: not fucking complying in advance dipshit. It’s the law. I can’t do shit about this. Get mad at your representatives. I have to follow the fucking law to do business. Jesus Christ

Show threadDanielle ForéMar 18
If the worst thing that’s happened to your rights in the last few years is you might have to type the number 18 into a text box you need to touch some fucking grass. Take that energy and go to a protest. Write your reps. Stop voting for Trump. Don’t vote for Gavin Newsom. Delete meta’s apps. But constantly harassing open source maintainers like we have some kind of power is wild. I am a low income marginalized woman who is just trying to survive right now and I have much larger rights issues
Show threadDanielle ForéMar 18
When you tell me to just not implement age declaration, do you understand you’re asking me to risk thousands of dollars in fines? Which means realistically the only way for me to not follow the law is to close my business and stop making elementary OS. Do you think it makes sense for me to decide to have no income right now in the middle of massive tech layoffs in a purely symbolic act of protest? Do you really fully understand this is what you’re asking of me?
Show threadFelicitas Pojtinger 🌅Mar 18

@danirabbit Yeah, I mean the current iterations of these laws from my understanding are just "have a way to enter the user's age and expose it to apps", which seems pretty harmless.

I wonder if, for now, you can simply comply be geoblocking the affected regions though? As a non-American I don't want the OS I run to be affected by a foreign country's laws, which this age API stuff atm is still ...

Show threadDanielle ForéMar 18
@pojntfx I live in California
Show threadFelicitas Pojtinger 🌅Mar 18
@danirabbit Oh shoot, does that make it impossible for elementaryOS to not comply because it or you are a California entity? Or would it just mean that a Californian has to use a VPN to access say the elementaryOS APT repos? I thought it was based on whether or not you serve Californian customers, like how the OSA applies only if you serve British customers
Show threadDanielle ForéMar 18
@pojntfx IANAL, but from what I understand it applies to “operating system providers” and “covered app stores” which would include elementary and appcenter
Show threadFelicitas Pojtinger 🌅Mar 18

@danirabbit Hmm, I understand. That's unfortunate if it's indeed based on where it's registered and not on where your customers are from

https://archlinux32.org/ has decided to comply by geoblocking affected regions, I guess they probably aren't affected by this then because they aren't a Californian/US entity?

Arch Linux 32

Show threadSolitha

@pojntfx https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043

IANAL but I do think it's about who uses it, not where it's registered.

Then again it's a pretty hollow law and they expect to fill in details with amendments. In its current state it's really too vague.

@danirabbit

Bill Text - AB-1043 Age verification signals: software applications and online services.

AB 1043 Age verification signals: software applications and online services.

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