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Danielle Foré 4d ago

Denying trans kids healthcare or refusing to update passports with correct gender markers because of an unenforceable executive order: complying in advance

IDing customers in a bar because serving alcohol to a minor is illegal and you will get your liquor license revoked and have to shut down your bar: not fucking complying in advance dipshit. It’s the law. I can’t do shit about this. Get mad at your representatives. I have to follow the fucking law to do business. Jesus Christ

Danielle Foré 4d ago

If the worst thing that’s happened to your rights in the last few years is you might have to type the number 18 into a text box you need to touch some fucking grass. Take that energy and go to a protest. Write your reps. Stop voting for Trump. Don’t vote for Gavin Newsom. Delete meta’s apps. But constantly harassing open source maintainers like we have some kind of power is wild. I am a low income marginalized woman who is just trying to survive right now and I have much larger rights issues

Danielle Foré 4d ago

When you tell me to just not implement age declaration, do you understand you’re asking me to risk thousands of dollars in fines? Which means realistically the only way for me to not follow the law is to close my business and stop making elementary OS. Do you think it makes sense for me to decide to have no income right now in the middle of massive tech layoffs in a purely symbolic act of protest? Do you really fully understand this is what you’re asking of me?

@danirabbit which bill/law is being referred to here?

@r0k https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law

@danirabbit

California introduces age verification law for all operating systems, including Linux and SteamOS — user age verified during OS account setup

AB 1043 also requires OS providers to pipe a real-time age checker to every app developer who requests it.

Tom's Hardware

r0k

@solitha @danirabbit wow, thank you for sharing that

I wonder how they expect enterprise installs to satisfy this... what is the age of a system account, if that's all that logs in? 🤔

@solitha @danirabbit or if a system is multi-user, which user's age matters?

@r0k It's pretty bare-bones with a lot of question marks remaining.

From what I understand, they passed the law intending to amend it into a viable state... which really leaves devs twisting in the wind.

Kind of typical of California legislation. Probably good intention, but bad implementation.

@danirabbit

@solitha @danirabbit yeah, I saw that in the article you shared (thanks again for that)

so much heavy lifting there:

"Despite signing it, Newsom issued a statement urging the legislature to amend the law before its effective date, citing concerns from streaming services and game developers about "complexities such as multi-user accounts shared by a family member and user profiles utilized across multiple devices." Whether amendments will materialize before January 2027 remains to be seen."

The_Decryptor 4d ago

@r0k @solitha @danirabbit You should read the actual law (It's short) rather than the reporting on it, which is universally garbage.

For starters, system accounts aren't people, nor can they use app stores.

@the_decryptor @solitha @danirabbit it reads just as poor to me
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043

Bill Text - AB-1043 Age verification signals: software applications and online services.

AB 1043 Age verification signals: software applications and online services.

@the_decryptor *shrug* I already read both the law text and the reporting on it.

@r0k @danirabbit

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_billion_in_nonprofit_grants_and_45/

@solitha @the_decryptor @danirabbit I found this while doing more research about this