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ickplant Mar 18

CHOOO CHOOOOO MOTHERFUCKERS

https://lemmy.world/post/44425210

I understand all this of course, but I find it curious Americans seem to think everyone else who has gone on a protest, riot or participate in an actual revolution in history were all comfortable, with a large nest egg and able to stop working for as long as the revolution lasted.

The notion that they may have to actually sacrifice some comfort is completely unreasonable it seems and yet, that is exactly what they constantly accept every single time a politician (usually a Republican but by no means only by Republicans) erodes another right, liberty or opportunity

TheHighRoad Mar 18

You are asking people to choose homelessness. At some point the tide may rise to the point where community support will allow for this, but it’s just not there yet. I don’t know if it will ever be until it’s too late.

Ok first of all, if you are 1 day pay cut (so no pay for 1 day so you can strike) from being homeless, the harm is already done and you now get to enjoy the benefits of showing nothing but apathy for the past 2 decades

Second, of course I do not mean every single person should be able to do this… but your position is that basically NOBODY could strike either which is laughable

TrousersMcPants Mar 18

Dude, I wasn’t even in the work force 2 decades ago, I went from high school straight into paycheck-to-paycheck survival mode because I couldn’t afford to go to college. I didn’t even have a chance, but people like you go online and act like all Americans are lazy assholes who should just fix their country because you don’t know what it’s like to be locked into wage slavery just to afford the most basic amenities that are provided freely to everyone in your country. If I don’t have a job, I lose access to the medication that makes my life bearable and possible, and in order to keep a job I have to sacrifice most of my time and energy for it.

Ok then… hang on to the scraps they have allowed you to have until they take those away… I am sure you’ll just go down happy you stretch your misery as much as possible without inconveniencing the regime.

all Americans are lazy assholes

lazy no, just apathetic… assholes yes, it if does not affect them personally, they could not care their neighbour suffers… “fuck you, got mine” is the most identifiable American Value

If I don’t have a job, I lose access to the medication that makes my life bearable and possible, and in order to keep a job I have to sacrifice most of my time and energy for it.

This regime just kicked around 11 million of people in your situation out of health care… I guess it did not hit you this time so you keep chugging away at your self admitted slavery…

TrousersMcPants

Alright, so what should I do to singlehandedly save my whole country? What do you want from me? Do you feel good about yourself that you’re arguing with people in worse living conditions than you on the internet? I will quit my job and go out into the streets until a cop shoots me to death for sleeping on a park bench in your name, that will save my country!

singlehandedly

Nothing, do you know what the GENERAL part of General Strike means?

What do you want from me?

I would love to America to fuck off… but YOU don’t need to do anything for ME… you should be doing this for YOUR FUCKING SELF

Do you feel good about yourself that you’re arguing with people in worse living conditions than you on the internet?

LOL OMG the victim complex… this is another American Value

I will quit my job and go out into the streets until a cop shoots me to death for sleeping on a park bench in your name, that will save my country!

Maybe be smarter than the Pedophile you elected as president? maybe just spend a few hours a week organizing from the safety of your home?

MinnesotaGoddam Mar 18

you’re talking to individuals, not a public. you do not have that kind of pull.

it’s a public forum bud… you just felt singled out.

Maybe if you were a person actually doing something, you would have interpreted my comments as “uff sucks to be them”

MinnesotaGoddam Mar 18

no i feel a responsibility to stick up for people who have stuck up for me. you legitimately don’t know who i am.

I do not… but either you felt called out by my comment or “care” about other people who are doing exactly as I am assuming.

If you feel such camaraderie with them, what did you do for the 11 million people that were kicked out of Health Care by your rapist president a few months ago?

Come on, shut me up and show me the good stuff

MinnesotaGoddam Mar 18

dude, relax. there are better things to do than argue on the internet.

I work every day to lay the groundwork for a general strike.

I speak to everyone I can about it.

I have convinced maybe 3 people and I have about 150 million workers left to go.

But let’s be more realistic. Maybe 30 million are already convinced. Only 120 million people left to talk to.

I’ll update you when I’ve spoken with everybody.

LOL when just talking to other people seems to much for you that you push it sarcastically

I wish I wasn’t serious. It’s not sarcasm when it’s the bald face truth.

Ok seriously, have you actually talked to people into taking any action? any, as in “stop buying from big corpo as much as possible” or “stop using Meta, Xitter, etc”

Even writing to your corrupt Senator/Governor works something because it piles on the evidence of dislike.

If so, you are already doing something and, while you alone won’t change the world, you are contributing

Notice I am not (and never were) asking people to set themselves on fire on the Capitol stairs or sacrifice their first born, those are the exaggerations people point to simply to pretend there is no hope and since there is nothing they can do, they might as well actually do nothing.

I appreciate your recognition of our humanity.

You are correct to point out that change cannot be forced without some sacrifice. Our forbearerers camped out for years in West Virginia, lived in tents in the mountains as striking coal miners, and endured gunfights and ultimately machine gun fire and bombs in the Battle of Blair Mountain.

They lost the battle.

But they scared power and within a generation reforms like the weekend and the 8 hour workday were passed into law. Thank you coal miners and the United Miners Association that supported them with union dues.