so we feel like we might want to go to the trouble of drafting an OAUTHDEVICE SASL method and proposing it to the IETF
OAUTHBEARER is very nice for what it is but the world is more than just the web
@ireneista we were just having a conversation with someone about how all of the "not web" software stacks feel like they haven't been updated since 2005 or something
@r yes, agreed. we're trying to renew that stuff in general, as we have a need for it, because it feels like the web is the present but no longer the future, you know?
@ireneista we've lost track of how many times we've made comments of the form "we _had_ that. it was called XYZ. it had <some problems> before everyone gave up and replaced it with <web tech>"
@ireneista the most recent round happened to be about Sun RPC (and DCE/RPC, and microsoft DCOM), and what that "thick/rich client" future could've looked like
@r for sure

@ireneista this remark is also related: https://glauca.space/@r/116248385560703239

genZ seems to be seeing somewhat of a revival of animated cursors, but... as far as we can tell, the tech hasn't changed since 2005 either

@r that sounds likely

@ireneista well, there is a new development: someone wrote a javascript parser for ANI files that extracts each individual frame, converts them to data: URLs, and generates CSS animation glue in order to make all this work on the web

one step forwards, two steps back?

@r huh. that's pretty neat really.
@ireneista oh it's a brilliant solution for the web