I was hunting down folk who sing with a Northern Irish accent for #ThePlaylist and was disappointed to find a lot of singers from here seem to suppress or downplay their accent. So, for St Patrick’s Day, here’s Foy Vance in the Bushmills Distillery with some very County Down vowels.

https://youtu.be/LWldBMWI8Gs

Foy Vance - Closed Hand, Full of Friends (Live from Bushmills Distillery)

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@astronomerritt

Wow, great performance, but amazing to me how the accent sounds just like a certain variety of stuff from the US, doesn't sound unusual or "foreign accent" to me at all.

@dlakelan That’s interesting, because to me that’s a very strong local accent. The way he sings “down” in the second line and “now” in the chorus are very characteristic of a specific area.

But then, I’ve spoken to Americans who think Liam Neeson’s American accent is great so now I suspect you lot just can’t tell the difference 😉

Foy Vance is good though. He’s like if Van Morrison wasn’t a massive twat.

@astronomerritt

Yeah, I can hear the "down" (sounds like "deern"). But I think you may also be underestimating the effect that Irish immigrants had on American music particularly in bluegrass. I'm definitely a bluegrass fan so that may play into it.

Here's like some random recent bluegrass that's not at all a good comparison but I definitely hear altered pronunciation vs american common english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJzz-Nuo-QQ

Molly Tuttle and Billy Strings, "Sittin On Top Of The World," Grey Fox 2019

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@dlakelan I’ll have to take your word for it as it’s not an area of music I know anything about and to me they sound very American (though you did say it’s not the best comparison!). I agree the style of singing is very very similar though — it definitely wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the kind of nasal exaggerated vowels were something inherited from Irish folk.

@astronomerritt
https://youtu.be/5rDrPBzJo5o?si=Yo1awOrhRWMndQpv

here's Abigail Washburn singing and playing banjo in an alley 😅.

Undoubtedly you'll hear the difference more than the similarity. She certainly isnt going to pronounce "down" like "deern" but as you say the exaggerated vowels are also not normal modern american pronunciation. If I went back and played some 1950s bluegrass with old school Appalachian players it'd sound even less modern american.

Abigail Washburn - City of Refuge

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@dlakelan Okay, yeah, I definitely see what you mean here! I still don’t think it’s an accent, necessarily, but the way the style of singing treats the vowels is identical. I know Foy Vance lived in Oklahoma for a while so the influence may in fact be the other way around.