Steve Troughton-Smith5d ago

If the original Mac had used icons in menus from the start, nobody in their right mind would be calling for their removal today.

That's how you know that argument doesn't reflect reality. All major platforms now have icons in menus; you can't wind back the clock on that one, you're just obstinately refusing to follow the system standards and user expectation.

So much ink and many podcast hours have been wasted discussing the wrong parts of the issues with Liquid Glass on the Mac

Show threadMario Guzmán
@stroughtonsmith I would be fine if they explained as to why they changed their position. The HIG used to discourage icons in menus explicitly. Why change now? Why 30-40 years later? My understanding is someone wanted them just to have them at . No real reason. But if their current HIG could explain why they’re needed now, I could maybe get on board. Sometimes the icons don’t even make sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mar 17 at 3:44pmIvory for iOS
Show threadCM Harrington5d ago

@marioguzman @stroughtonsmith

Also actual research says that in general, icons in menus like this are a bad thing. The very reason they were NOT used were based on these studies. That whole argument is moot.

Show threadKeir5d ago
@marioguzman @stroughtonsmith “no real reason” sums up this years releases for the most part lol