Things everybody needs to hear more often:

- you are loved
- your feelings are valid
- you deserve rest
- you don't need to be available at all times
- that's not a raven, that's a crow
- it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

@schratze I'm so urban I would probably mistake a raven for a crow because ravens are just rare birds that live far away where I don't dwell (the country)
@schratze I do know that they croak and not caw but according to my father the difference is when you put them next to each other and I would rather not risk it getting my eyes clawed out trying to measure them🤣
@leguinian_utopia no the calls are the best way to distinguish them. Also the hair tuft on top of the beak, the rhombic tail, and the way ravens soar through the air

@leguinian_utopia @schratze and the sear terrifying size of those things.

good rule of thumb is, if you are wondering if that’s a raven, it is not. if you’re like “holy mother of jesus what the actual hell is that” it might be a raven. or a witch in disguise idk.

@whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia agreed. Except if it's at a great distance with no objects nearby by which to judge the size
@leguinian_utopia @schratze my kid just said the other day ”if far enough, every bird is black.” so in above example identification arrives to black bird.

@whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze

A big crow looks like it could steal your lunch

A normal raven looks like you'd better just fucking leave your lunch behind

@TeflonTrout @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze

I see crows all the time, bigger than pigeons, smaller than seagulls. I don't have a mental image of the size of a raven. I'm tempted to say seagull sized, but now as I type I recall "seagull" is like twenty different species and my local seagulls might not be at all like any of yours. Big enough that you could imagine one eating a whole pigeon

@elithebearded @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze

Ravens are the size youd expect from a bird of prey instead of a corvid

no not that kind

the klingon kind

@whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze I googled "raven size" and holy mother of jesus what the actual hell
@IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze it gets so much worse during puberty! Google 'teen titans raven inflation'
@arichtman @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze are you sure I should google it and not search for it on e621?

are they like several time bigger than crows?

@IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia @schratze

@xarvos @IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia no.

Common raven wingspan is 116 to 153 cm. Carrion crow wingspan is 84 to 100 cm.

@xarvos @IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia you could have a pretty huge difference in terms of weight. Lowest recorded weight for an American crow is 316 grams. Highest recorded weight for a common raven is 2250 grams
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