Steve Troughton-Smith5d ago

If the original Mac had used icons in menus from the start, nobody in their right mind would be calling for their removal today.

That's how you know that argument doesn't reflect reality. All major platforms now have icons in menus; you can't wind back the clock on that one, you're just obstinately refusing to follow the system standards and user expectation.

So much ink and many podcast hours have been wasted discussing the wrong parts of the issues with Liquid Glass on the Mac

Show threadDimitri Bouniol5d ago
@stroughtonsmith As someone still on Sequoia, I can say that the icons in Sketch actively slow me down compared to menus in every other app. Would this be different if we’ve had consistent icons everywhere all along? Maybe, but there was some simplicity to pattern finding a word in a dense list that is lost when icons were added…
Show threadSteve Troughton-Smith
@dimitribouniol 'pattern finding a word in a dense list' is what slows down most people, and certainly where you lose me
Mar 17 at 12:18pmIvory for Mac
Show threadDimitri Bouniol5d ago
@stroughtonsmith Again, it's probably because I’ve been staring at exactly those words in those positions for literal decades. Like you said, the biggest shortcoming of liquid glass is that none of it was really designed with intention, so every menu uses different choices for their icons. If it were consistent over a period of years, perhaps recognition memory could be built, but until then, it feels like its all just noise…