Hofmaimaier3d ago

send thoughts and peer review

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Show threadJack

I’ve twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus’ name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.

I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.

Matthew 7:7-11
7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9 Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

Matthew 7 - The Narrow Gate

“Do not judge, or you will be judged. For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye?

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Show threadPyr3d ago
People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess.
Show threadwewbull2d ago
Playing devil’s advocate: science hasn’t cracked any of those yet either.
Show threadBradleyUffner2d ago
Solving those problems is not part of science’s purview.
Show threadwewbull2d ago

It absolutely is. They’re sociology problems. Observations can be made on causal factors in society, changes made, effects observed, results shared.

Have a read of the book “The Science Of Racism” for how science can give a insight into dealing with a social issue.

Show threadZacryon2d ago
It has helped to improve on those issues though.
Show threadJack2d ago
True, and the scientific method and results have made wars more intensely deadly; but science doesn’t claim if you say some magic words you can have absolutely anything you want. The scientific method is by far the best way we’ve found that lets us figure out what is real and what is nonsense - no other method comes anywhere close to it.
Show threadCattail2d ago
I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war that’s clearly ongoing