complaining about the price of petrol long predates the current crisis but it hasn't stopped people from driving the largest most fuel-thirsty vehicles imaginable
@cestfleuve i swear people buy based on price per kg
@airshipper @cestfleuve Well-marbled specimen, the Wagyu SUV.

I have just the analysis for you, then. 2024, 2025 most popular car registrations by drive train and their weights!

Scroll down about half way to find the table.

Oh they’re some big chonkers!

https://sdc.org.nz/notes/heavy-ev

@phil_stevens @airshipper @cestfleuve

Are EVs heavier?

How heavy is a battery anyway?

@futuresprog @phil_stevens @airshipper @cestfleuve

To a large extent, it's not that diesel vehicles are heavy, it's that heavy vehicles are diesel, it just reduces the vehicle cost by lowering peak power without sacrificing torque.

I think the price-performance curve is what pushes the weight up on electrics too, minimum cost pushes up engine size which pushes up batteries, chassis, etc.

Then in heavier vehicles, the price drop of diesels makes electric uneconomic again.

@futuresprog @phil_stevens @cestfleuve oh i would very much like to add in the weight of a lifetime of petrol or diesel but it keeps burning off and i'm left with an extinction load of co2 and soot

That was one of the excellent points made by Technology Connections:

Why are you buying something for a single use and then you never have it anymore? Fossil fuels are disposable. Use them and you’re left with nothing. What else do we buy like that?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

@airshipper @phil_stevens

You are being misled about renewable energy technology.

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