MicroWave5d ago

Trump allies plan Senate floor takeover to pass SAVE America Act

https://lemmy.world/post/44338937

Trump allies plan Senate floor takeover to pass SAVE America Act - Lemmy.World

Trump’s allies are planning to take over the Senate floor this week in a bid to pass the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE America) Act, setting up a major test for Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.), who is under pressure from Trump and the MAGA base to extend the debate over voting reform for as long as possible. GOP senators are playing their cards close to the vest ahead of this week’s marathon debate over the SAVE America Act, which would require people registering to vote to show documented proof of citizenship. But they’re bracing for long hours and possible late nights in a bid to build momentum for the bill, which already has broad public support. A recent Harvard CAPS/Harris poll of 1,999 registered voters found that 71% support the SAVE America Act. Trump allies, frustrated that they aren’t able to force Democrats to stage a talking filibuster to block the bill, are pressing Thune to keep the measure on the floor as long as possible to force Democrats to defend their opposition.

Show threadbuddascrayon5d ago

the bill, which already has broad public support. A recent Harvard CAPS/Harris poll of 1,999 registered voters found that 71% support the SAVE America Act.

I highly doubt that most of those people polled have any idea of what Republicans actually mean by “proof of citizenship”. I would bet money they just think it means showing your driver’s license and/or social security card.

In reality, it means having to show a valid passport (which is a massive pain in the ass to obtain) or having a copy of your birth certificate (also a huge pain in the butt to get).

Polls lie, always have and always will. It’s not about the question but how you ask it.

Show threadProfessorozone5d ago
Not too mention 1999 people is a pretty small sample for a 160M voter population.
Show thread🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞5d ago

It’s not.

Many polls use 1000, which gives ±3%, while 2000 gives ±2%.

Now, you can do things badly and screw that up, but assuming the polling is randomized, it’s more than enough.

Show threadProfessorozone5d ago
I’ll take your word for it. Statistics was my worst subject. It just seems small logically. I mean if you polled 1999 people in my city you’d get probably 99% Trump support. I doubt you’d get that from a random sampling in California.
Show thread🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞5d ago

if you polled 1999 people in my city

That’s why national polls would not poll people in just one location :)

Show threadProfessorozone5d ago
But that’s like 40 people per state.
Show thread🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞5d ago

Imagine a big pot of soup - like 100 gallons of soup. I bet you could take out like a half cup of that soup and you’d know basically what the soup tasted like.

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Why is a 1,000 sample enough for an opinion poll?

How can an opinion poll that samples 'only' 1,000 people be larger enough to tell us the views of the whole country? Soup explains the answer.

Mark Pack
Show threadProfessorozone
To be honest that wasn’t a very good article. Also the quality of the poll means everything. If you ask 10 people if they think voters should show ID, I bet you’d get 100% agreement. It would change a lot of you asked them if we should disenfranchise women. We’d have to see the actual poll.
Mar 17 at 2:22amWeb
Show thread🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞5d ago

Go find your own article. Pardon me for trying to help. I won’t make that mistake with you again in future.

You can choose not to understand, or you can go fucking educate yourself then. Or don’t. I don’t fucking care.