Aleksandr Yakunichev
Alexia 
"no politics in foss" enjoyers when I tell them that the Free Software Foundation and everything they've spawned is literally a political movement
Shea 🌱
shadowwwindEy yo why you so political >:(
Natalie
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🌸 lumi-nhac 
🌱@alexia nothing is free from politics, really
saying anything is politics-free tends to just mean "we're ok with the status quo"
saying anything is politics-free tends to just mean "we're ok with the status quo"
Matilda Love@alexia with rare exceptions "no politics" always means "our politics only"
Tzimisce Flesh@matildalove @alexia
There's two distinct, if somewhat overlapping, kinds of "no politics".
There's "do not question the status quo" active stance that defends the establishment by shutting down any criticism or opposition as "political". This is often coupled with the insistence that preserving and serving the status quo is politically neutral. And as Alexia points out, often pretending that one's own chosen project is politically neutral.
Then there is a "Listen, I'm not here to talk about that stuff", which is just people wanting to avoid needing to think about the Situation all the time and trying to keep peace (negative or otherwise). This does often have blindspots as well (everything is political, nothing is "just politics"), but the ideal is to just avoid the mental and social strain of discussing such topics in a given space.
The former will often pretend to be the latter, of course, but there are cases where you'd want to cool it with the politics talk. The core issue is to not feign neutrality and, ya know, not be a fascist sympathisers.
There's two distinct, if somewhat overlapping, kinds of "no politics".
There's "do not question the status quo" active stance that defends the establishment by shutting down any criticism or opposition as "political". This is often coupled with the insistence that preserving and serving the status quo is politically neutral. And as Alexia points out, often pretending that one's own chosen project is politically neutral.
Then there is a "Listen, I'm not here to talk about that stuff", which is just people wanting to avoid needing to think about the Situation all the time and trying to keep peace (negative or otherwise). This does often have blindspots as well (everything is political, nothing is "just politics"), but the ideal is to just avoid the mental and social strain of discussing such topics in a given space.
The former will often pretend to be the latter, of course, but there are cases where you'd want to cool it with the politics talk. The core issue is to not feign neutrality and, ya know, not be a fascist sympathisers.
StoneBear 
Luis Villa@alexia I am horrified to discover that this post is 20 years old https://lu.is/2006/09/what-the-kernel-guys-got-wrong/
breakgimme@alexia the „no politics” people are so annoying and i think that some of them actually see politics and the real world as something seperate
i once saw a trump supporter be mad at a company that said they were rising prices because of tariffs, saying they were „unnecessarily bringing politics where it doesn’t belong” or something along those lines
as if politics is just some stuff politicians talk about and not actual policies with real world consequences
i once saw a trump supporter be mad at a company that said they were rising prices because of tariffs, saying they were „unnecessarily bringing politics where it doesn’t belong” or something along those lines
as if politics is just some stuff politicians talk about and not actual policies with real world consequences