real_username56What operating system do you primarily use on mobile devices?
I wish graphene supported more phones.
Would definitely give it a try if my Android phone was supported!
i’m been wanting to use graphene, but refuse to buy a pixel new or used so i’m looking forward to this and hope that its implementation isn’t measured in years.
Android (stock)
iPhone: iOS
Main Android phone: grapheneos
Anything else: whatever it came with.
I gave up on custom roms like a decade ago and switched to iOS. Graphene is stable enough I’ll deal with it. Although I hate how annoying it is about locking the bootloader and root.
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆I used LineageOs before, but GrapheneOS now.
ShimitarGiven how many years people is answering LineageOS or GrapheneOS, I would like to state that “LineageOS” or “Graphene” means Android.
Yeah, those are all android under the hood.
Maybe customized to various depths and details, but still it’s android.
It’s much more correct to say that Lineage or Graphene are Android than saying that Android is Linux.
Both Lineage and Graphene would not exists and could not exists without Google developing the AOSP.
While they improve stock Android quite a lot, they are still Android.
I stress this because lots of people think that those could be alternatives to Android and the Google monopoly, but it’s not true. Only a true Linux mobile OS would be.
ScrubblesYou don’t use Ubuntu or PopOS, you use LINUX.
Yeah I get you man, but we already know that. It’s more fun to get into details
I agree with you, but the point is people really think you can fool Google by using lineage or Graphene, but that’s not true you still depends deeply on Google steering the entire AOSP
It’s much more correct to say that Lineage or Graphene are Android than saying that Android is Linux.
Both of these are correct. LineageOS and GrapheneOS are AOSP; AOSP is Linux.
Linux is a kernel. Any Linux OS is “real Linux.”
I was not precise. I should have said gnu-Linux to differentiate from Linux as just the kernel, my bad. It’s gnu-libux that gives you that feel you are on the family even if you have ubuntu or Gentoo.
But I beg to differ: AOSP cannot be called Linux in any way. It happens to use Linux as a kernel as you say, but lacks everything that make an SO typically Linux(or gnu-linux):
- starting from the base of the system, AOSP doesn’t use libc s system library like gnu-Linux
- even the C++ STD library of AOSP is incompatible as it lacks RTTI
- doesn’t use anything like systemd or the init system (unless mod-added)
- has a totally different HAL which is not compatible between the two
- has a totally different network tooling stack
- has a totally incompatible GUI layer
- Most of android drivers have a thin kernel layer plus a huge proprietary AOSP layer libraries which are not gnu-Linux compatible
- the entire ecosystem of AOSP is kotlin/JavaScript instead of just being language agnostic
So no, you cannot say at all that AOSP is Linux after all. While you can run gnu-Linux binaries on android, and viceversa, you must provide a complete environment around them, like termux. It’s more a container like approach.
They only share a kernel and there have been plans to replace that too.
android but I hate smartphones so its off quite often. Its for phone calls and pictures and once in awhile to have a doc displayed, use the calendar, or map.
Linux! I have an FLX1s, so it’s actual Linux, not Android.
It does have an Android compatibility layer. But the core system is Debian, not Android
CalcProgrammer1Android (currently GrapheneOS, just switched to a Pixel Fold) and postmarketOS (OnePlus 6/6T). I have SIM cards in both of them. Mobile Linux is awesome for pocketable PC and development purposes, but Android is better as a daily driver communication device, so I carry both. I did get Termux set up on my Pixel Fold though and got code to compile there as I want to be able to use the large fold screen for development. Hopefully one day we can run Phosh full screen with GPU accel and full touch input on top of Android.
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Lettuce eat lettuceGrapheneOS, love it.
Some flavor of Android
- GrapheneOS on my main phone
- DivestOS on my old secondary phone
- LeOS on my tablet. It has all the pings to Google servers cut out and since it’s a GSI, it’s perfect since my tablet doesn’t have LineageOS support.