Iranian lawmaker says Ukraine's drone support makes it a legitimate war target
The head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.” Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.
Ukraine is sending neither drones nor soldiers inside of Iran.
Thousands of Iranian drones have landed into Ukrainian soil, though.
Also are you telling me the Iranians sent the drones to Russia and just sent them flight instructions printed on an A4 paper instead of Iranian instructors…?
Ukrainian soldiers are operating the drones to defend the genocidal ethnostate and the US bases bombing Iran. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Ironically Ukraine is sending soldiers and interceptors from their own frontlines. Guess they don’t need them more than Netanyahu.
Iranian soldiers operated the drones sent by a demand of a genocidal ethnostate to bomb Ukraine. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Now, because of involvement of these chaps, Ukraine has a technology that is in high demand in the world, for whatever reason. It’s very single cellular to assume that the technology is not scalable, and that literally every person who can be involved in scaling of a technology must be digging trench somewhere in Donetsk.
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
But it’s they are not the only one committing genocide, and your mates from around here are making it very weird turning people suffering into genocide Olympics.
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
Okay, so we can agree that Israel and the US are evil.
So. What does it say about Ukraine that they are on the same side?
This is not some comic book battle between good and evil, it is perfectly possible for both USA, Israel and Russia to be evil, they are all expansionist imperial entities currently engaging in imperial land grabs. I would say they are all evil.
Ukraine and Iran were just minding their own business when the imperialists attacked. USA, Russia and Israel are all on the same shitty side of the coin. The rest of the world hates the lot of them.
It’s impossible to fight the entire world all at once. I say we choose the lesser evil.
It’s how you vote anyway, right? Why not just apply that on a larger scale?
Your comment implies that it is a binary choice. Lesser evil between the USA, Israel and Russia is a difficult shout, there is a cigarette paper between the three.
The three are also not the same, the USA is a far bigger threat to the world due to its military and financial might. Russia and Israel are not eating at the same table. It could probably be argued that they have the most twisted world views of the players here and I am very glad they are not in the conversation. China and the EU are the only other potentially global players. The EU are the USA’s yes men who have been greatly upset to recently be told this reality to their face. China look to be an alternative but when you peel back the veneer they are closer to the USA in their set up than most people would care to admit.
The lesser evil one is a difficult argument to make, do you believe if either Israel or Russia occupied the USA’s position as global hegemon that they would be better or worse?
My comment implies there is a primary contradiction, and the choice is between US hegemony and multipolarity.
There is an empire, and only once it is destroyed can we even begin dealing with any of the lesser contradictions.
There are several empires, American one is just the most powerful. The way the Chinese and the Russians treat their people does not give me hope that their empires would act any differently. Britain and France have shown they are not to be trusted either based on their past atrocities.
Would mutipolarity make things better or worse? I don’t think that it matters, the fundamental nature of power and nation states make conflict and war inevitable. A multipolar world would likely make conflict more common. Can you name any wars of aggression that have honestly been done to improve the position of the country and its people and not just the elites? Vertical power structures are the problem, I would happily see the USA lose its position as hegemon but multipolarity won’t change much.
The logical conclusion every country should be looking towards now should be acquiring nukes. Maybe this is the path to peace.
No. There’s the global hegemon, and then there are the lesser regional powers that can’t project force very far beyond their borders. Russia has been fighting for a decade over a relatively small piece of land that’s literally directly on its border, it just isn’t strong enough to even be an empire. There is only one empire under hegemony
That will certainly change in a multipolar world, but that means we can pit them against each other. Without a hegemon that can rally the entire imperial core against every revolutionary project, this new world will be one where revolutionaries can use imperialist rivalries to create space for themselves. Multipolarity is the precondition for revolution.
And in this new world, we’ll need to reevaluate the contradictions. Russia is my enemy’s enemy at this historical moment but in the new world I expect that to change. They are neoliberal capitalists, after all.
Despite Russia’s failure on the battlefield they are still an old imperial power holding vast quantities of land from the days of the Romanov’s. They still hold power over multiple cultures and ethnicities and brutally suppress secessionist movements.
Fortunately the Trump government seems to be putting the American empire into an unrecoverable tail spin as a result of his and his movements almost unparalleled ignorance. We might just get to see this multipolar world, I actually think the future will be bipolar with India and China as the competing powers. The west has had its time.
They still hold power over multiple cultures and ethnicities and brutally suppress secessionist movements.
That’s literally every country on Earth. That’s what countries are. The project of nation building is welding together different ethnicities and cultures into a single unified nation, and sometimes that requires putting down secession to maintain cohesion of a single state. If your definition of “empire” basically defines all countries as empires, it isn’t very useful.
I actually think the future will be bipolar with India and China as the competing powers. The west has had its time.
The West won’t vanish either, they’re still going to be very powerful competing powers. It’s likely going to break up into chunks, though, starting with the split that’s emerging between the US and basically everyone else. Then, maybe, Europe will fracture further into blocs. No idea what Canada is going to do, probably get invaded and absorbed by the US or something.
It’s going to get ugly and strange. But, in that ugliness and strangeness, there will finally be space for revolution again.
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