Dave SnowdenFinal post in the anthro-complexity series, looking at socio-technical systems, Ingold's meshwork, and, critically, the accountability for complex systems interventions. "Its emergent" is an alibi for a lack of discipline. https://thecynefin.co/anthro-complexity-5-5/
Trond Hjorteland@snowded Thank you for an interesting read. As you do into #SocioTechnical here, you seem to only reference the older materials, which were expert driven and more experimental in it's nature. Partly because of the experiments done in the 60s, like in Norway. Emery took this further and developed Open Systems Theory, which is partly covered in the third Tavistock anthology, social-ecology. Core of it is obviously the openness of the system, but especially important is the participative nature of the work design (the joint optimisation) to create the conditions to fulfil the workers psykological job requirements. If you have, how does that fit in with your perspectives? A big ask if you are familiar with it, but would be great to get some ideas.
@trondhjort happy to look at something if you have a reference But I suspect the substantive point still applies
@snowded It has moved from organicism to contextualism so it is fundamentally different in many regards. Emery did this in the 70s and evolved it to his death in 97 together with his partner Merrelyn. Much of it is available at https://www.socialsciencethatactuallyworks.com/ which is a lot, but maybe an easier start is opensystemstheory.org which is a community web page.
@trondhjort OST I know it has the same ontological issues. If you post this as a comment on the blog I’ll respond at greater length
@snowded Would be great to hear your thoughts on that. Sounds pretty solid to me, but be aware of it is very different from Bertalanffy, and more aligned with Angyal.