this is my assessment of the situation. my opinion could change...
@0x47df where is the option for black and white ti84+ /j
@ezio i haven't had any TI-84+ to make my assessment on, but i assume they are close enough to the CE anyways.
i have had TI-83+, and i did not get on so well with it. i kept it because i can at least run houstontracker on it. if it will not make me happy running numbers, it can make some chiptune. that's a reason to keep it.
@0x47df theyre slightly better, imho. iirc they added anti-assembly stuff to the newer firmwares on the 84CEs which is not cool, meaning you have to jailbreak them with exploits

the 84+ does not exhibit such issues, which is why i bought one a couple of years ago when my 83 died
@ezio mmm, I traded my CE for an 83 pocket Fr within a few days of getting the CE.
I still don’t vibe with the older TI calculators. Idk why.