Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiMar 15

No Microslop for me

https://piefed.social/c/programmer_humor/p/1880684/no-microslop-for-me

Show threadusername_1Mar 15
The guy doesn’t want Windows but is ok with Mac. That’s… not how it works. At all.
Show threadetchinghillsideMar 15
I think you’d find that many devs would opt for a Mac over Windows.
Show threadhdsrob
Hate both, but I’d run Windows over Mac any day (and I develop in both regularly since I have projects that require Windows and Mac, and will for a long time). But some of this is probably due to having to use the steaming pile of crap that is Xcode.
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Show threadundefinedMar 15
Why would you be forced to use Xcode? I’ve been a developer (just not Swift) for years and have never used Xcode.
Show threadhdsrobMar 15

Swift.

There really aren’t any other valid options for building native iOS apps.

Luckily, we don’t really do much native iOS dev anymore, so I’m just maintaining 3 apps, and not building anything new.

I only have to fire up the Mac for a few days every few months.

Show threadEthanMar 15
Then why use Xcode? Mac is essentially BSD under the hood so basically any Linux CLI tool works fine, and GUI applications work reasonably well with XQuartz or whatever it’s called these days.
Show threadhdsrobMar 15
There’s really no other reasonable way to build iOS apps. AppCode was a thing, but was retired a few years ago.
Show threadEthanMar 16
Ok… but we’re comparing Linux, Windows, and macOS. Talking about something that can only be done on one of them is kind of pointless. You said “I’d run Windows over Mac any day” and then shat on Xcode. That makes it sound like you prefer Windows because you hate Xcode. From my perspective - the context of things that could also be done on Windows - the solution is obvious: don’t use the tool you hate.
Show threadLedivinMar 15
I work at a full MacBook shop and literally nobody uses xcode 🤷‍♂️ weird reason to be against it
Show threadhdsrobMar 15

It’s really the only viable option for iOS apps.

To be fair, I pretty much hate everything about the Mac, but Xcode is about the only thing I use it for, and it just gets worse with every release.

Show threadirelephant [he/him]Mar 15
I don’t know anyone who uses xcode for anything but ios dev
Show threadhdsrobMar 15
That’s only thing I use the Mac for. Everything else is in Linux or a Windows VM (for Windows desktop apps that can’t be done outside of Visual Studio).