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BluescluestoothpasteWho says linux is bad? At worst people say it’s too hard for them, but i never heard someone say it’s bad.
funkajunk 🇨🇦Usually people who installed it yesterday and are mad it doesn’t behave exactly like the OS they’ve been using for the last 20 years (which they also had to learn how to use)
TBF it does have a glaring lack of automation for way too much of the basics. Even hand holding distros like Mint will have you using the terminal for something windows just does with a double click.
FTR I prefer Linux over Windows but I still lose it every time installation instructions for some app have 4 pages of commands for the CLI instead of just running an installer that automates the BS.
Maybe 10 years ago, but for me installing anything is done with a single command (pacman or yay)
Are you using some sort of niche software?
Every piece of software that doesn’t come with the default repositories, which in many distros includes the ’niche’ software of vidcard drivers. Samba network sharing v1, disabled in both Windows and Linux, is a simple double click of the app feature to reenable in Windows. In Linux, you have to change entries in at least 2 files, assuming you can find correct instructions in the first place.
I mean you have to find those check boxes in Windows too.
I do think some things in Linux are still not super user friendly, but for example installing apps is much better. Sure something may not be in the repo, even if some distros have impressively vast ones, but even that is easily solved with flatpak and appimage nowadays.
Samba v1 has been disabled by default for years in Windows, because of security concerns. If m$ is even warning against using it, you probably shouldn’t use it.
Enabling something that’s deprecated as fuck is not a very good example.
Hey, you know what is a good example? Every app not included in the default app repository. But, you conveniently skipped that to make a useless point. GG.
It’s not that Linux is bad, it’s the fans of it that are annoying
EthanIt’s responding to “you say Linux is bad”. If you pretend the funny cat picture is someone talking, and my comment is someone talking back, it makes sense.
Typical Linux distributions are almost objectively harder to use than Android. I’d be surprised if anyone really disagrees with this. When someone complains about Linux being hard to use, it’s the POSIX-based Linux distributions that must support arbitrary hardware (often poorly so) that they refer to. I don’t need to care about installing NVidia drivers and whether they’re compatible with EFI handover when I buy an Android phone.
You do need to worry about whether or not your phone is locked to a specific carrier and if its the carrier you want to use the phone with.
To piggyback off this, Windows is also “harder” than Android. You need to reinstall Windows due to an update fuckup? You tried building your own PC? Well, you either fork.over $120 for an installation media, or you have to create your own, then learn how to boot into the BIOS to boot from that media, then you need to scour the internet for not only your Nvidia driver, but your audio driver, WiFi driver, integrated graphics driver (if you have and want to use an IGPU) and possibly motherboard drivers if your mobo has some odd implementation that requires a driver for USB 3.1 to work properly.
None of these operating systems are “harder” than another. You are just used to one over the other. You don’t use your automatic transmission car skills trying to drive a manual transmission, unless your goal is to crash and burn.
variablenineMass🪦
massgrave proves my point. The user has to go out of their way to run that script.
Linux would just work ootb. No activation needed
You do need to worry about whether or not your phone is locked to a specific carrier and if its the carrier you want to use the phone with
Laughs in Canadian
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schnurritoTypical Linux distributions are almost objectively harder to use than Android
So are Windows and macOS.
So it’s just not true at all, got it lol
“Linux is bad”, because it doesn’t provide have data collection and transfer to shady corporations with large PR umbrellas, out of the box.
blinfabianlinux sucks because i was promsed a cute penguin but instead got some blue triangle???
ZozanoNo one wants a frozen butthole
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Android comes pre-installed on my device, with automatic security updates and manufacturer support for the likely lifetime of the device.
I’d definitely use a Linux PC if it came out of the box ready to go like that.
I mean, it doesn’t magically appear on the device. You pay for the installation, it’s just included in the price of the device (with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way). There are companies that’ll install Linux for you. Hell, pay me $30 and cover shipping, I’ll gladly set you up with, I don’t know, Fedora and even add a timer with notifications that’ll nag you about package updates, just like Android does.
with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way
Your computer’s price is often subsidized by the fact that the manufacturer has an agreement with Microslop to preinstall Windows on it.
Excuse me, they do what now? Do you have a source on this? Because I know of this little article, but that was quite a long time ago.
Quirky QuinnWho is the goverment paying to install Windows?
It used to be Norton antivirus or whoever that would pay have their shit software preinstalled.
I was looking at a thinkpad some months ago on their website and selecting Ubuntu from their options took off $160.
Yeah, I know that, the manufacturer has already installed the OS etc.
What I want is a warranty and guaranteed manufacturer support, rather than me needing to figure out how to fix it.
Outside of specialized B2B software, I never met a tech rep that would be helpful with an issue. Do you actually have experience where you’d call Google/Apple/Microslop and get help with their software? In Linux world, with many programs I can just go and nag the actual developer of the thing, which often works wonders.
I had a driver issue with my laptop which was causing the microphone to not work, not only was it fixed under warranty, but they sent a tech to where I was studying to fix it, rather than having to drop it off.
Did phone manufacturer finally decide to keep supporting their models after the first year/couple of years? Or did the “likely lifetime” of a smartphone dropped below that in the meantime?
If anything, my experience with “manufacturer support” on android isn’t particularly stellar, with the only outlier being my current Samsung XCover, which is kinda cheating due to the thing being a rugged phone targeting companies and not the average joe, so the thing is built to last, both hardware and software side.
On the other hand you do have a couple (maybe even three!) companies that offer linux pre-installed on their machines.
I’m pretty rough on phones, so they tend to only last a few years for me.
I’ve had my current one for three or four years, and I think that’s a record.
Ricky RigatoniAndroid is hardly linux and is also bad.
I wouldn’t say it’s bad per se, but getting worse. If they go through with their app developer verification thing then it will definitively cross the threshold from “thin fucking ice” to shit
And OSX is a BSD but nobody i ntheir right mind would consider it a BSD distro.
blujanOSX is UNIX, built on BSD foundations but not BSD.
Android on the other hand IS Linux, and is distributed. So I say, it’s a Linux distribution.
All other things that people mention as qualifying for a Linux distro are either GNU libs (which alpine doesn’t have) or POSIX/UNIX way of doing things, which would disqualify Android from being POSIX compliant but not from being a Linux distro.
I’m gonna be real here I don’t care.
“Linux is superior, i am in full control and free to use my device however”
has an iphone
It’s not like there are actual Linux alternatives on the phone market
JyekPostmarketOS is an Alpine distro packaged as a mobile OS. Full phat Linux on a smart phone.
Yeah there are some, Jolla is another, but I already know I will lose all my banking and payment apps and will end up still having to use an android in addition.