I have some mixed feelings on the commons, LLMs, ownership and economics. Would love some input.
I find this hard to navigate so I hope you all can extend me some grace if I mess up. Happy to read and engage, please send links. So... here goes:
I'm seeing a lot of reactions to LLM value extraction that stand on copyright, or where people are reducing their contribution to the commons as a response. This feels like throwing the game to me: the worst move in a hard situation.
@nielsa
> people are reducing their contribution to the commons as a response
Because the Commons is no more.
What you contribute with an intent to be in the commons instantonously is being grabbed by the #siliconiac monster to be rehashed and served in pulp to the serfs. You can keep none digraphs of the CC license now. Not even the BA (By Attribution) as your contribution to the "Commons" becomes oligarch's asset the second it joins owned by them heap of stolen work.
Soon #darknet will be the only place where your work could technically be recognized as yours.
#noai
@ohir I cover my take on this I replies to the thread I posted after you wrote this reply. Would love your input on where you think I'm wrong.
Your position is exactly what I'm responding to. I emphasize with it, but I don't think it is constructive, and I think it veers into AI exceptionalism... would love to flesh out my thoughts, so please tell me where/if you think I'm wrong.
@nielsa
> I think it veers into AI exceptionalism
What do you mean using "exceptionalism"?
Because for me this reads like the "I" in this sentece was used for "Inteligence" while it should read "Illusion".
Nope. #siliconiac is not intelligent. It mimics being one. And it does this emulation seemingly well – It sounds so knowledgable and authoritative.
For all but a seldom recipient that happens to have a basic knowledge in the field the output babble is about. Basic knowledge allows one to spot that one per ten sentences is a lie. Expert knowledge of the field allows us to spot distortions and misrepresentations sprinkled over the rest.
What is really exceptional in current takeover is how many human beings are ready and willing to have their brains sucked out.
Now make a good use of #siliconiac translating services and read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limes_inferior
@ohir I don't really understand your tone and the level of fervor you're coming at me with here... if you read anything else I write on LLMs you'll quickly see I agree with you on those points, e.g.
https://mas.to/@nielsa/116155256730780974
and https://mas.to/@nielsa/116205874563036815
...but you are not at all engaging with what I'm actually writing in the thread you are responding to?
Every time I try to replicate or create useful cases for LLMs in technical areas I understand (including code/software development, corroborating various claims, summarizing text, etc) I have such a terrible experience convincing it to actually answer what I ask, without hallucinating or its clear training biases to shine through. I have yet to see anyone's shared "useful output" (non-trivial tasks) without the same flaws. I'm not surprised, but confused: people keep claiming it works??
Niels Abildgaard
ohir