LughMar 15

Chinese firm BYD says it will build 2,000 5-minute fast charger stations across Europe in 2026; at 1.5mW each, they will be 5 times more powerful than most existing chargers.

https://futurology.today/post/9204868

Chinese firm BYD says it will build 2,000 5-minute fast charger stations across Europe in 2026; at 1.5mW each, they will be 5 times more powerful than most existing chargers. - Futurology Today

“In China, BYD is currently building 4,000 1.5mW charging stations across the country, with plans to roll out 20,000 by the end of this year. Although not quite as ambitious, a BYD spokesperson for the European side of the business told me that the company is targeting 2,000 1.5mW Flash Charging stations across Europe before 2026 comes to a close.” I’m fascinated by the economics of this. How does BYD make money on this? Do they run the chargers at a profit? How much will this work out per km for drivers compared to diesel or gasoline? People think of BYD as a budget car marker, but this to support its luxury brand Denza. The Denza Z9 GT EV has a range of 1,036 km (644 miles) on these chargers. I’m guessing having the best charagers is going to be seen as premium/luxury too. ‘Ready in 5, full in 9’ — this Chinese EV charges to 70% in only 5 minutes, has a 644-mile range, and it’s coming to Europe in April [https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/ready-in-5-full-in-9-this-chinese-ev-charges-to-70-percent-in-only-5-minutes-has-a-644-mile-range-and-its-coming-to-europe-in-april]

Show threadFedegenerateMar 15

I want to believe BYD. But my Civic is 20 years old and still idles like a purring cat. I would like 1 year/£1k spent and I don’t have faith im getting that in a BYD. 20k for a Dolphin Surf is a minimum 20 year car, and I just don’t see it.

Granted my Civic wasnt bought new, it was brought for £1300 a year ago and I could probably get another 100k miles out of it. Im almost certain that the new market is outside £1k/year budget, bunch of old Leafs around though.

Show threadMBech
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, other than “used cars are cheaper than new cars, and I won’t buy a new car until that changes”.
Mar 15 at 1:24pmWeb
Show threadFedegenerateMar 15

Sure. My point is that I don’t believe BYD makes cars that will last as long as I would want them to last.

I want to believe BYD. But my Civic is 20 years old and still idles like a purring cat. I would like 1 year/£1k spent and I don’t have faith im getting that in a BYD. 20k for a Dolphin Surf is a minimum 20 year car, and I just don’t see it.

Dolphin Surf is 20k, for me I would like it to last 20 years. My current car has already survived 20 years, so I don’t think that’s an unreasonable expectation. I don’t believe the dolphin surf will last 20 years.

I could have been more clear.

Show threadMBechMar 15

That’s fair.

They do seem a bit more on the discount side, quality wise. But then again, lots of the usual discount cars, also don’t make it much past 10-15 years. My Nissan Micra is 11 years, and there is no way it’ll still be driving in 9 years, might not even survive the next 2.

Show threadFedegenerateMar 15

£1k/1y is both an easy and challenging target to hit. It’s really easy to hit at the bottom end, bouncing from £500 lemon to the next. Occasionally finding a gem that’ll last a few years.

Nearly impossible to hit on a new car though I think. 20 years for 20k I don’t think is findable beyond winning the lottery on a well made car, from a well designed model, from a reliability focused manufacturer, and giving it an easy life.