Just a little one and a half hour walk nearby before it was supposed to be raining (and rugby starts).

It was a nice walk and good to be out. Strangely, my old GPS device refused to get a location despite having lots of satellites. Just 10min before coming back (after a couple of restarts and taking the batteries out and back in) it worked.

Fortunately, I only had it with me to test if my heart rate monitor also connects to it.

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@hikingdude Probably old enough it lost the almanac and ephemeris. It can take a long time to recover from that.
@ericphelps I thought about it, too. But usually (tm), I got it after 20min. But somehow not this time 😕
Can it take soooo long?

@hikingdude I wonder if constantly moving and walking around hills that block half the sky makes it take longer.

There's an awful lot I don't know about GPS.

@ericphelps 🤔 moving in forests probably didn't help. Despite showing quite some strong signal to several satellites.

@hikingdude
I'm curious if you also used a navigation app on your phone and how fast the response time was on that.

@ericphelps

@TimKStanton @ericphelps
I tried that, too to check:
But right after opening a GPS test application, I had 2m accuracy.
@hikingdude @TimKStanton The advantage of a phone is that it can download the almanac over the network to allow for very fast positioning. Can your offline GPS be updated from your home computer in a similar way to get the almanac and ephemeris?
@ericphelps @TimKStanton
Very strange: same issue again today. 20min until location was shown.
I'll have to keep an eye on that.

@hikingdude

Yes, very strange. The longest I’ve had to wait for a gps fix (on my phone) is about one minute and that was in a heavily wooded valley between mountain ridges.

@ericphelps

@TimKStanton @hikingdude @ericphelps It typically will take about 20 minutes to download the almanac etc from the satellites due to slow transmission speed. This assumes the user's device is stationary and has a decent view of the sky. The GPS device will need a fresh copy of the almanac data after a certain number of days or after being moved a certain distance.

I used to do some experimenting with this stuff back in the day but that was years ago and I forget the approximate numbers we talked about.

@mappingsupport @TimKStanton @ericphelps
Hm that fits pretty well to the waiting time I experienced. Thank you Joseph.

But strange that it happened now two days in a row with just less than 10km in between.

@hikingdude @TimKStanton @ericphelps Yes, that sure is odd. The almanac data should have still been good.