Sven Boetius
Sue is Writing Solarpunk ππ±every time I see this graph
it reminds me that the status quo thinkers and talkers and powers are an oil slick in our minds
telling us things can never change
what they really mean: STOP THE CHANGE
our answer: no
#SolarIsRadical
(renewable energy isn't the whole answer but it is a radical redistribution of power distribution and that's an earthquake they can't stop)
Jeff Miller (orange hatband)@susankayequinn That looks from the typeface like a graph from The Economist magazine. And that pleases me, it's like the proverbial opera singer"s aria saying it's all over except the spin.
@susankayequinn Oil is still the fuel of war, and the faster we get off it, the less bound we are to the causes of war.
@jmeowmeow the more oil refineries they blow up, the faster the transition goes
@susankayequinn (whispers) offscreen subplot of The Ministry for the Future
@jmeowmeow it's heavily ironic that Trump is enacting the subplot but for completely different reasons
Harald K.@susankayequinn I guess some of it, at a certain time of the day, probably travels through the Strait of Hormuz. But not enough to matter.
@Harald_Korneliussen haha true, but the only people who care about the photons traveling through the Strait of Hormuz are the plants/animals/beings in the Strait of Hormuz
and that's the kind of radical groundedness that can change the world
MattChippytea@susankayequinn because there is no option other than oil or gas⦠https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn877d27gndo
Curiously all those rural homes that are not, and never will be, on the gas network do have electricity.
QCCEγ―γͺγΉ@susankayequinn I find think tanks are stacked with neoliberal, right wing propagandists. I don't think I've ever seen or even heard of a decent think tank.
On the other hand, they now have Trump at the helm, so this may plateau it out, for a couple of years. Depending on the impact of the US on this R&D area.
hot tran*sexual menace@susankayequinn thanks for my daily required dose of hope when facing the inept and corrupt governance of our lives.
leeuw@susankayequinn Hi there ! Solar looks clean and perfect here in Europe. If you look at the poor workers in China working in the factories that produce those panels (with coal energy coming from south America)... stop pollution globally and stop thinking we are doing a good job promoting solar energy and electrical cars here. Rivers turn green in China, air is polluted for our "green" energy here. Are we human or what ? @bart
Kim Possible 
@susankayequinn I am waiting for it, but someone will point to the destruction of solar panels in last night's U.S. storms as some kind of evidence that they aren't useful. Okay, Brad, but weren't those homes and businesses useful, the ones that also got destroyed?
People said the same inane thing after Hurricane Helene, when so many electric cars got inundated with salt water, and some of their batteries caught fire. Uh, I think that flood was destructive to everything, not just electric cars. π
It's maddening that people try to make caring about ourselves, our environment, the planet, and each other, is somehow something we don't want.
@kimlockhartga the amount of energy they will put into resisting change rather than embracing it is astonishing and indicative that they really just cannot deal with a changing world.
Hamish BuchananAll the while marketing *their* new products and technology as good, necessary and, indeed, inevitable.
@hamishb @susankayequinn I've seen people manipulated into believing that access to their own Healthcare is something they shouldn't want, so my faith in people is pretty limited.
@kimlockhartga @hamishb
That manipulation is necessary because the *default state* of humans is not actually to hate each other and be destructive. I maintain this is true simply because we couldn't have survived this long if the death-urge were the default mode and not an abberation fostered by the powerful to maintain control. (And that we've survived *despite* that constant effort at manipulation because the rest of our daily practices are much more humane and human).
That manipulation is necessary because the *default state* of humans is not actually to hate each other and be destructive. I maintain this is true simply because we couldn't have survived this long if the death-urge were the default mode and not an abberation fostered by the powerful to maintain control. (And that we've survived *despite* that constant effort at manipulation because the rest of our daily practices are much more humane and human).
@susankayequinn @hamishb excellent analysis.
Tykayn@susankayequinn
Yup, however this is installed capacity, i would be more optimistic if it was like that for the tera wathours production, and if the shift to more electric usage was following this. Because if you add clean energy but do not remove shitty sources like coal it has no climate impact mitigation, and this is what we need to survive.
Yup, however this is installed capacity, i would be more optimistic if it was like that for the tera wathours production, and if the shift to more electric usage was following this. Because if you add clean energy but do not remove shitty sources like coal it has no climate impact mitigation, and this is what we need to survive.
@tykayn "no climate impact" is wildly pessimistic and falling prey to the same kind of thinking that led to these predictions.
Yes, we need to remove shitty sources like coal (which we are doing at an astonishing rate) but this solar surge also allows better quality of life for people who skip over fossil fuels altogether and go straight to renewables. There are incredible (and a lot of unknown and unknowable) knock on effects.
Pessimism is a comfortable place but it doesn't bring change.
@susankayequinn
I prefer to say that i pays attention to plain greenwashing instead, i am not a passimistic person and toroughly read on the climate subject (ipcc, iea reports and our world in data sources are great with measures and i often see people amazed by solar stuff not being serious on the measures of impact)
Things are done and being changed but not at a satisfying pace.
Low carbon production is becoming more available, it must not make us forget how huge the work is left to be done, how strong we should pressure the politicians to stop being so unknowing the basic things, and there are more than 80% of the things in the world that are still high carbon, plus some facts about how solar punk is known to be more of a marketing movement than a science based view of possibilities.
To illustrate that, we have in france a minister who thought we can power easily the needs with people pushing on bikes all day. That would not provide enough for any country.
So yeah.
But still optimistic if people are able to get some eyes on some science vulgarisation.
@tykayn ok, if you're gonna say solarpunk is marketing more than movement, I'm going to say you have no idea what you're talking about.
And literally no one said this one graph on mastodon was the totality of everything that we should do. You're not being serious, just an agitator.
Trammell Hudson@susankayequinn it's the opposite of the Itanium Sales Forecasts graph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium#Expectations
@th huh, almost like the same forces of rapacious consumption are behind both the over/under predictions π«‘