FULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿Mar 15

did you know: foot in gnome logo stands for memory footprint

on a related note, 10mb rust program spawned by the image loader spawns a c program, parses /proc/meminfo and decides my computer is too shit to deserve a wallpaper

new laptop, or new desktop shell, lubomir

Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿

oh the pdf viewer was replaced by a pdf viewer that takes more memory, and the old viewer was ported to a toolkit that takes yet more memory and now it's too big to read the files it read yesterday.

good upgrades all around the place

Mar 15 at 6:59amWeb
Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿Mar 15
is it now as secure as when firefox decided it's a great idea to render pdfs in javascript so the user could have a quick bong rip while the page is rendering
Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿Mar 15

gnome was always ahead of the curve, sloppin' long before ai

and sort of proved the point.

wrote a desktop shell in toy language with no type checking that is glued by the means of javadoc dialect parser in python and hacked together c parser, against like two hundred c libraries, from 80's gems, through openssl to sci fi shit like jit for fonts, graphic drivers that involve compilers, code generators all in one monumental nihilistic yolo process and they made it not crash all the time and i commend them for that

Show threadTomáš Janoušek6d ago
@lkundrak Yeah well except the "made it not crash" bit…
Show threadTomáš Janoušek6d ago
@lkundrak In related news, Eva (my lovely wife for whoever else reads this) needs to Alt-F2 r (restart) gnome-shell every other day because it either leaks so much it grinds to a halt or sometimes just gets completely stuck and refuses to switch windows.

I'm soooo not looking forward to the Wayland future where she'll have to restart her entire session every other day instead.

(On the other hand in that future it's kinda okay if everything else leaks and gets stuck as well…)
Show threadTomáš Janoušek6d ago
@lkundrak (Also it's all my fault I dunno why I gave her GNOME in the first place.)
Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿5d ago
@liskin yes probably your fault
Show threadCat Poníčková6d ago
@liskin @lkundrak would be so sad if i had a husband who couldn't fix my gnome
Show threadTomáš Janoušek6d ago
@poni @lkundrak with all the messed up shit in the world and the effects it has on my mental health there are times I can't fix anything at all

not just gnome

😿
Show threadCat Poníčková6d ago
@liskin @lkundrak relatable, i spent half of the night just crying instead of fixing stuff myself
Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿5d ago
@liskin you may be delighted to learn that alt-f2 r doesn't work with wayland and therefore is not present in current version of gnome
Show threadTomáš Janoušek5d ago
@lkundrak yes I'm well aware of that (see my second paragraph...)
Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿5d ago
@liskin hail satan
Show threadMoravian Kaleidoscopy Ltd🇺🇦5d ago
@liskin @lkundrak uhh, same ... good to know it's not a wayland or nixos thing at least ...
Show threadMichal Vyskočil5d ago

@liskin
That's surprising. I rarely turn off my Gnome laptop and I dont experience memory leaks related to the DE 🤷.

But yeah, the dependecy chain of Gnome itself is scary.
@lkundrak

Show threadFULL-FIFO DEVELOPER 🇺🇦🇨🇿5d ago

@vyskocilm @liskin > I rarely turn off my Gnome laptop

me too ever since systemctl poweroff broke in a recent update

Show threadMichal Vyskočil5d ago
@lkundrak
Seems like AI is trying to make sure it can't be turned off.
@liskin
Show threadTomáš Janoušek5d ago
@vyskocilm @lkundrak To be fair I'm not like 100% certain it's memory leaks per se. It just gets slower and slower, to the point pressing the Super (Win) key to bring the activity switcher takes a second or two instead of being instant.
Show threadMichal Vyskočil4d ago

@liskin
I noticed that sometimes keypresses gets lagged for a while. It is super annoying and I think its somehow caused by Firefox and Web Whatsapp.

But thats a different problem.
@lkundrak

Show threadTomáš Janoušek4d ago
@vyskocilm @lkundrak Is that on X11 or Wayland?

(If X11 then very likely unrelated to GNOME as input events don't go through gnome-shell.)
Show threadMichal Vyskočil4d ago

@liskin
I think the 49 I use already ditched X11 code, so Wayland. But it happens so rarely i cant reproduce it.

Symptoms are similar to this: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gnome-input-lag-keyboard-repeating-keys-under-cpu-load-or-power-saving-mode/153849

GNOME Input Lag: Keyboard Repeating Keys Under CPU Load or Power Saving Mode

Problem Description I’m experiencing significant keyboard input issues on Fedora 42 (kernel 6.14.5-300.fc42.x86_64) that make the system nearly unusable under certain conditions: When Gnome power mode is set to ‘Balanced’ or ‘Power Saver’ (works better in ‘Performance’ mode) When the system is under heavy CPU load (when compiling code or calculating ReplayGain) The issues manifest as: Repeated keystrokes Delayed input response Symptoms and Testing I’ve conducted a simple typing...

Fedora Discussion
Show threadTomáš Janoušek4d ago
@vyskocilm Yeah, well, what can I say. Having input handling in the same process as gnome-shell is exactly as retarded as it sounds.