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Microsoft Confirms Windows 11 Bug That Locks Users Out of the C: Drive

https://reddthat.com/post/61925595

Microsoft Confirms Windows 11 Bug That Locks Users Out of the C: Drive - Reddthat

>KB5077181 was released about a month ago as part of the February Patch Tuesday rollout. When the update first arrived, users reported a wide range of problems, including boot loops, login errors, and installation issues. > >Microsoft has now acknowledged another problem linked to the same update. Some affected users see the message “C:\ is not accessible – Access denied” when trying to open the system drive.

wunderbred Mar 14

Never again, Windows.

JensSpahnpasta Mar 14

There must be something really seriously wrong at Microsoft. I can understand that Windows patches are complex and that they might break some of those crazy things people are running on their machines. But how is a bug that is killing access to the C:\ drive able to get through testing? WTF are they doing?

Lost_My_Mind Mar 14

It’s going to come out that there’s AI in the code. And the code testing was done by AI, who gave the buggy code the green light.

Boomer Humor Doomergod Mar 14

Or worse: AI is doing the QA as well

ViatorOmnium Mar 14

What QA? Microsoft’s QA was always the CEO demoing the latest repository head on stage.

SpaceNoodle Mar 14

They at least used to be embarassed by a live BSOD.

floofloof Mar 14

We’re doing the QA.

“Code Testing” = QA

ramble81 Mar 14

It passed the unit test, it must be good!

Quality Artificial Intelligence assurance

ThatGuy46475 Mar 14

They don’t need testing because they tell the ai to not make any errors

mybuttnolie Mar 14

my boss loves AI and he uses it for everything. he made some stats graphs and summaries, and he was bragging how he got AI to make them errorless: he tells it to check for errors and makes it swear it’s accurate… while we were looking at a graph where the y column numbers were all fucked up

suicidaleggroll Mar 14

Interestingly, AI is actually pretty good at making graphs, the trick is you don’t ask it to actually make the graph itself. Instead you have to ask it to write a python script to create a graph using matplotlib from whatever source file contains the data, then run that script. Same with math. Don’t ask it to do math directly, instead ask it to write a bash or python script to do some math, then run that. Still not perfect, but your success rate increases by about 1000%

Because of so much open source and stack overflow it was trained on.

But who writes bash scripts to do math?

suicidaleggroll Mar 15

But who writes bash scripts to do math?

A full script? Nobody. But you can just run it interactively on the command line, which a lot of AI clients have access to. bc works great for basic math in the shell.

SaharaMaleikuhm Mar 15

That’s about 90% of what I use AI for right there: silly little bash and python scripts. A graph, some image compression, ffmpeg video shenanigans, the works.

UnspecificGravity Mar 15

It’s really really bad at doing spreadsheet analysis. Even basic shit that I would give to an intern. At least an intern with generally just make shit up and pretend it’s not wrong even when I point it out, and if they do I get a new intern.

MonkderVierte Mar 14

It’s Microslop. This is what’s wrong.

It’s not as bad as that time they permanently deleted user documents and photos.

See they had this trick where if you didn’t have enough space on your drive to unpack an update, they’d just move your shit to OneDrive temporarily, then move it back when the update was done. Only they forgot to move it back, and lost it. Oops.

NotMyOldRedditName Mar 14

Seriously?!?! 😲

SaharaMaleikuhm Mar 15

No, but are we gonna wait until they do?

No one smart is going into windows dev in 2026. It’s like working on IBM mainframes. Only people left to work are middle of the road new grads they hire and boomers who are retiring.

criss_cross Mar 14

My company is starting to roll out having AI both put up PRs AND give code reviews.

I would not be surprised to hear Microslop is doing the same thing and having horrible results.

Amazing what happens when you try to turn your talent pool into lifeless casino monitors.

UnspecificGravity Mar 15

Probably AI code getting tested by AI.

Vibecoding. Microslop has peddled AI so much that they have gotten addicted to their own supply.

GreenBeanMachine Mar 15

*Microslop

They need to rapidly reduce the complexity of their software if they want to get this under control. The answer is NOT to add more features, it’s to simplify things.

SpaceNoodle Mar 14

Great idea, I’ll ask Copilot to do that

sp3ctr4l Mar 14

They aren’t capable of doing that.

GalacticGrapefruit Mar 14

Why use their stock ticker instead of their name?

sp3ctr4l Mar 14

Force of habit, shorter to type, everyone knows what I mean.

That was the state of windows in 2005

We just had this month’s Patch Tuesday and they’re still dealing with problems caused by last month’s?! I really need to try harder to convince my father putting Linux on his current computer is a better idea than buying a Windows 11 computer.

CerebralHawks Mar 14

Can you still use the computer? Other than the home folder (or the user folder), I think it’s fine if regular users go a week without touching their C drive until Microslop fixes it (which they will, inside like a week).

I use Windows at work, and it’s fine. I do use the home/user folder just because it’s there and it’s how everything’s set up, but there is no other drive to use instead. If I were using it at home, especially if I had a laptop, I’d want the home drive to be on an SSD I could move between machines… maybe. But, I use Macs at home.

Encephalotrocity Mar 14

laughs in Linux

I…. I can’t believe you are defending (or more accurately saying “it’s not that bad”) losing access to the root of your hard drive. It screams incompetence on Miroslop’s part.

Iheartcheese Mar 15

And it screams incompetence on his part if he actually thinks this isn’t a problem.

CerebralHawks Mar 15

Well I’m obviously not, I’m just saying, if the system wouldn’t boot at all, they’d lead with that. For most users, it won’t matter. For the more technical users, we’re either using Linux or macOS.

i put my computer stuff on the part of the computer where the stuff goes, losing access to the stuff on the computer would be a problem yes

Brickfrog Mar 14

from the article

The issue appears mainly on Samsung laptops and can prevent users from accessing files or launching applications.

Having a computer that cannot launch applications, let alone access files, is basically the same as not having a working computer.

CerebralHawks Mar 15

But it can boot into Windows, which is also on the C drive? So it’s not locking users out of the C drive, it’s locking users out of parts of the C drive.

luluberlue Mar 15

The boot process isn’t an user process, Windows would still be able to use the C:/ drive for itself, for every other user software though, that’s another story…

CerebralHawks Mar 15

So only the user process is locked out of the C drive, not the boot/system. Fortunately, the way Windows 10/11 works by default, if you sign into a Microslop account, it backs all that stuff up to OneDrive. At least your documents. And no one’s saying it’s not bad, it just seems like most affected individuals will be able to go about most of their day. I have a Mac, so I don’t need to worry about any of this have separate issues to worry about.

luluberlue Mar 15

Having OneDrive wouldn’t help as you still won’t be able to use programs as a user, which is pretty much the reason we use computers in the first place, this bug effectively makes whole computers glorified paperweight in the meantime.

luluberlue Mar 15

Hardly.

The system drive (very usually C:/) is where the Users folder lies by default (and you can’t move it anyway IIRC), folder that contains stuff like the Appdata folder where… well… apps keeps their data like settings, history, backups… Most software will try to access it and would meet an “access denied” error.

This is also the default location for all the documents, music, videos, pictures,[…] folders (but you can change those though)

Basicaly you’d be limited to the “portable” versions of softwares located on other drives, which is not quite the norm on Windows.

DaddleDew Mar 14

Hopefully this doesn’t give Microslop executives the idea of turning it into a feature to force their users to save their files onto OneDrive

Jo Miran Mar 14

Let’s not pretend that Linux is without bugs.

Let’s not pretend that Microslop is capable of producing good software.

I don’t know about that, XP, 2000 and 7 was pretty solid.

ElectricAirship Mar 14

Not gonna mention Windows 8? Hmm I wonder why…

socphoenix Mar 14

Or vista lol, or windows 98 that was so bad they essentially recalled it and re-released it as a second version?

Everyone forgets MILENNIUM!

Because of the trauma.

pharceface Mar 15

I used 98 as a teen, it came pre installed, what was wrong with it compared to 95? Asking out of curiosity.

socphoenix Mar 15

Man it’s been a long time but essentially 98 was the first one to allow for plug and play without drivers if I’m remembering right. That and a few other stability issues made the original crash constantly, including during the demo at a tech show. They re-released it as a second edition that fixed most of it. If you bought the computer towards 1999 they had fixed it.

Because it was shit.

I never claimed that everything MS did was good

Fair point.

XP was probably their most solid OS. And that shouldn’t be a brag.

dustyData Mar 15

Reputation is such a strange phenomenon. XP was considered a disaster at launch. It took them years to repair everything that didn’t work.

The rollout of 64 bit architecture support was so sloppy that people were holding on to old hardware so as to not have to install the x64 version of XP. The premiere of the NT kernel meant that nothing had drivers, most software wasn’t compatible yet. DirectX 9 broke half of old games compatibility. There were also two entirely different versions of the shell with dramatically different start menus. Some versions didn’t support multi core CPUs.

It wasn’t until the end life of XP and the launch of Vista that people started to cling to XP and its reputation switched due to a mix of nostalgia and fear of the much worse launch of Vista.

I think .net is pretty good. People love VS Code.