Donald Trump pleads for UK to send warships to secure Strait of Hormuz

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Donald Trump pleads for UK to send warships to secure Strait of Hormuz - Reddthat

Lemmy

I don’t have a lot of faith that a worm like Kier Starmer won’t fold after Trump yells at him a bit.

There’s no way Starmer pulls us into this war, given the current political climate in the UK.

The two far-right party leaders called to join the war in Iran as soon as it started - they’ve both had to backpedal now due to the UK public categorically not supporting the war.

It’s given Starmer some much-needed good press. His actions on the world stage have been consistently brilliant and I don’t see that stopping yet. He should be able to keep our noses clean during this, but I suspect we’ll be hit with the recession regardless.

You forget that Starmer loves shooting himself in tbe foot and hates good press
And he could try the whole “no elections during wartime” strategy if he really wants to end up even more hates than he already is

There’s speculation that that is something Trump and the Republicans are after, with some evidence to support that theory.

There’s zero evidence to support New Labour will attempt the same. This is just tin foil pulled out your arse conspiracy, which aids nobody but the fascists. Don’t let the bastards win, don’t spread unfounded conspiracies.

Only two elections have ever been cancelled in our history, both during world wars. Both times the ruling party didn’t keep control but instead a coalition government of varying parties was formed. The strategy of cancelling elections to keep power in the UK therefore doesn’t work, has no evidence to support it, and the ruling party don’t have the public support to even attempt let alone pull off.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_George_ministry

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_war_ministry

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There is no way the Lords would allow that, nevermind the King. We are a consitutional monarchy. The buck doesn’t stop at Starmer.

In fact, I doubt even Starmer’s own MPs would follow such a whip

His domestic politics have been a disaster, but his international stuff has been pretty damn good. Mostly…

I take that back, the government’s position on Israel/Gaza is a disgusting… Apart from that though!

The bad domestic policies he quietly tended to walk back a bit, like the whole mandatory ID thing
He can’t afford to fold. He’s close to finished as it is, siding with trump would be the last straw.

“We have already destroyed 100 per cent of Iran’s military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close-range missile somewhere along, or in, this waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are.”

In what appeared to be an appeal to the UK and other nations, he added: “Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.”

Mr Trump struck a markedly different tone from when, earlier this month, he accused Sir Keir of joining the conflict after the US had already claimed victory, suggesting the US no longer needed UK assistance.

“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East,” Mr Trump wrote earlier in March. “That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them any longer – But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!”

“The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the greatest of them all”

Daddy Bibi gonna be mad about this one.

You think Bibi doesn’t know, nd love the fact, that Trump is an idiot?

America First. Remember?
So maybe all those allies weren’t so bad to have anyway?
But I sincerely hope nobody will come to the aid of USA in this. They made the mess together with Israel without consulting allies, and they need to clean it up themselves.

If they had consulted allies, I am pretty sure they would have been told unanimously to NOT attack Iran. They even had a clear deal on the nuclear thing, that Iran would stop completely to produce enriched uranium, not just for nuclear bombs, but stop COMPLETELY! Then Israel and USA attacked!!

Why? Because the U.S. decommissioned most of its purpose-built minesweepers?
My god he is such a fucking idiot. He just insulted them and told them their help wasnt needed. Just a stupid, pathetic, hatefull asshole.
And sadly watch the UK cave cause no one stands up President Lumpty Trumpty.

In what appeared to be an appeal to the UK and other nations, he added: “Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.”

China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK…wut?

He’s just listing the countries he can remember. It would be interesting to see China working alongside anyone.

Dear UK, do not help pedophile rapist out!

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We don’t have any ships anyway because the prior government gutted the military, just because. They’re looking very stupid right now.

It turns out that non of the military powers are much of a threat.

The sad thing is that they just might. The Brits (and the rest of Europe) need lower energy prices
The thing is there is no support for a war so leaders are very reluctant to be seen siding with the US. Even the right wing voters don’t want this.
Where the fuck is Israel in this war? Where are their soldiers?
In Lebanon
Gotta keep the genocide rolling.

According to the article, this is what he said:

Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated.

How does that turn into this?

Donald Trump pleads for UK to send warships to secure Strait of Hormuz

Ummm, sounds pretty much the same to me.

You mean because the headline did not include the other nations?

The headline conveys a different message. He made a statement in a public occasion.

He stated that these countries may have interest in joining the war, and that he’d be happy if they did.

He did not plead the UK: pleading the UK would be calling their prime minister and asking them what they want to join the war. As far as I understood there has been no contact with UK officials to talk about this.

It was just another post on “Truth social”. Full version of this particular ramble here:

Many Countries, especially those who are affected by Iran’s attempted closure of the Hormuz Strait, will be sending War Ships, in conjunction with the United States of America, to keep the Strait open and safe. We have already destroyed 100% of Iran’s Military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close range missile somewhere along, or in, this Waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are. Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint, will send Ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a Nation that has been totally decapitated. In the meantime, the United States will be bombing the hell out of the shoreline, and continually shooting Iranian Boats and Ships out of the water. One way or the other, we will soon get the Hormuz Strait OPEN, SAFE, and FREE! President DONALD J. TRUMP

Clearly that is doing more than just saying they “may have interest”. It is expressing a desire for them to on his part. I guess it’s not pleading but it is definitely him publicly urging them to do it. It’s also interesting that in the same message he claims that many countries will be sending warships before expressing this hope that some he lists would.

This timeline is unrealistic and poorly thought out.

ᴏᴜʀ ʜᴀᴛʀᴇᴅ ɪꜱ ᴄᴏɴᴄʀᴇᴛᴇ. ᴏᴜʀ ᴇɴᴇᴍʏ ɪꜱ ᴏʙᴠɪᴏᴜꜱ.
ɪᴛ’ꜱ ɪʙʟɪꜱ.
ɪᴛ’ꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜʀɪꜱᴛɪᴀɴ.
ᴀɴᴅ ᴀꜱ ᴛʜᴇ ᴋᴏʀᴀɴ ꜱᴀʏꜱ:
ɪ ᴡɪʟʟ ꜰɪʟʟ ʜᴇʟʟ ᴡɪᴛʜ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀʟʟ,
ʏᴏᴜ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀʟʟ ᴛʜᴏꜱᴇ ᴀꜰᴛᴇʀ ʏᴏᴜ…

– from The New Pope

“Please spend billions of dollars to pull my ass out of the fire!”

France already told him to go fuck himself.

I’m going to tell you like I told George Bush. Go fuck yourself.

-France

Instead of renaming French Fries to Freedom Fries, they’ll just ban them, and people who make them in their air fryers at home will be designated terrorists, and be executed.

As a result, the potato futures will plunge, and the entire potato industry will be destroyed, farms will go out of business, animal feed will be short, leading to meat shortages.

And the MAGAs will be on TV saying "It was hilarious to see the Libz getting angry because there were no fries at McDonalds, which was our objective.

"The fact that another major commodity market was destroyed as a direct result couldn’t be predicted, and isn’t our fault, or our problem.

“Thanks to President Trump’s leadership, we achieved OUR objective in record time, and this operation was a TOTAL SUCCESS!”

"I want Greenland! Give me Greenland, or I’ll go to war with Europe! Give me what I want OR ELSE! "

3 months later:

“You better help me save face from my virtuosically incompetent war strategy OR ELSE!”

What in Frankensteins vagina is going on with his face? It looks like it was sewn together from discarded bits of uncooked chicken skin
It was. His real face is underneath, and it’s much worse.

Hmmm, I wonder if we made an error in judgment when we designed these countries after WW2, including plopping down our own massive military base in the middle (Israel)?

UK and USA made this mess, the wars will never, ever stop by design.

Amerisrael is on the genocide route, and Iran is playing the role of Undyne. What a world.
US is out of warships? Didn’t see this comming.
Any US-aligned ships which go into the strait of Hormuz without Iran’s blessing will probably be hit by a bunch of drones and sunk. The US wants their puppet states to act as bullet sponges so that fewer Americans die.
The United States should be annexed by China
The United States should be returned to its indigenous owners
maybe let’s not replace one imperialist power with another, hm?
You people decided you didn’t need the UK back in 1776. No take backsies.

I mean, he decided he didn’t want us just a week ago…

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9dn3j04lydo

Trump accuses Starmer of seeking to ‘join wars after we’ve already won’

It’s already won. What’s the problem?

Trump accuses Starmer of seeking to 'join wars after we've already won'

The remarks come after a public back-and-forth between Trump and Sir Keir Starmer over UK involvement in the US's joint offensive with Israel against Iran.