I fucking hate war, but I have to admit that there's a real possibility that we (and they) blow up everyone's oil refineries and we finally wean ourselves off of fossil fuels. The absolutely stupidest and most violent way possible.

@Andres4NY

The USA and Russias desperate and violent need to extend the power of their oil industries is driving everyone else away to renewables

@Andres4NY

Got news for you:16 of the 20 largest oil refineries are not in the middle east, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries

Likewise, 4 of the top 6 oil producers are not in the middle east, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_extraction

List of oil refineries - Wikipedia

@Andres4NY Good idea if it was only fuel...

Almost all our fertiliser and plastics come from refineries, either directly or indirectly, so blowing them up can end up in a lot of people going hungry, and a lot of modern products becoming very expensive very quickly.

@Andres4NY I have the feeling that if we look for a green energy activist Holding a monkey paw with curled fingers, we'll find one.
@Andres4NY I keep thinking of posting something like, "wanna drive down oil prices? Support regime change in Washington!"

but I don't actually want permanent low oil prices? But I don't think high oil prices are going to mean a peaceful, death-free transition to renewables, either (independent of this fucking war). Bleh...