RE: https://oldbytes.space/@gloriouscow/116224004520766154

There's a larger issue here here, and that is that it's trendy in certain spaces to be extreme and opinionated about your beliefs, and angry at anyone who doesn't share them. I see this a lot on Bluesky and Mastodon.

The problem is, this is a slippery slope towards ending up in a tiny bubble and losing many of your friends. And that doesn't lead to happiness or to good mental health. Not for you, and not for the people around you.

The two biggest topics I see this with lately is AI and trans discourse. The simple fact is, morality isn't absolute. Words don't have absolute meanings. Tools aren't absolutely evil or absolutely moral.

It's okay to be sad at the state of the world. I'm sad too! And it's okay to be angry at problem people (think, the billionaire class). But when you direct that anger at your peers, just because they don't share the exact moral compass you have, you're just hurting them and hurting yourself.

It's impossible to live in a world where your social circle is fully aligned with you on beliefs and morals. It just isn't. It's okay to be disappointed. But if you start cutting people off for it, you aren't making anything better.

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In the extreme, you misfire, and misfire so badly you just end up isolating yourself. I've seen this happen multiple times recently, with people who saw what they perceived to be a moral slight or failing by someone they knew, and came out with knives swinging. Those never end well. At best you get blocked by one person. At worst you get called out for being completely unreasonable, and end up losing badly.

For better or worse, we need to work together. You can prioritize those closer to your ideals. It's okay to modulate your relationships based on how aligned you are on values. But that's the key word, modulation. If you care about someone and they make a moral choice that you dislike, the two healthy things to do are to either have a conversation about it (in private!), or just do nothing, accept the disappointment, and move on.

At the end of the day, outrage and anger might get you clicks, boosts, and a feeling of satisfaction... but are you really helping? Are you really making your life better in the long term? Others'?

I'm going to use an older example on purpose. Some time back, a friend expressed that she wanted to play and stream the wizard game, and I DMed her. I tried to explain why that would be so hurtful. And I convinced her not to. And I think that was a lot more productive than piling onto people who play the wizard game on the internet.

@lina idk this kinda comes across as gaslighting and victim blaming to me

@jackie Did you read the quoted post? The context is people using AI vs not using AI. If you feel so strongly about AI that you consider yourself a victim of everyone that uses AI (directly or indirectly), then... honestly, I don't know what to tell you, because even if you're justified in having that strong a reaction, at that point there is no healthy outcome for you in that state of mind. If that's genuinely where you're at, I think you might need a therapist.

Another case I saw recently is a trans person who believes 100% of cis people and 80% of trans people are transphobic. Similarly, regardless of how valid the underlying triggers may be... if that's where you're at, you need professional help to process your feelings. The world isn't going to change overnight to align better with you, and you are not going to be in a good place with that mindset.

@lina that's you lacking a systemic perspective on transphobia

@jackie I'm not the one getting banned from communities for lashing out at their peers. Again, you can argue about the situation as much as you want, but the practical reality is people with feelings so strong that they are perpetually angry at everyone around them are only hurting themselves.

You cannot exist in any community if you believe even within circles of your peers, 80% of them are toxic. It doesn't matter how right or wrong you are. You aren't going to convince everyone around you to change like that.

@lina you're a sicko
@lina instead of reconsidering at all, your response to the mere suggestion of gaslighting was to imply i am mentally unstable
@lina i'm assuming you have a computer science background to know about AI applications... but what education have you had about the sociology of race, class and gender? why would your perspective carry such weight over this hypothetical person, let alone me?