Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 13 - 12 Mar - Trieste - Milano - Zürich - Dijon - Ravières

New borders:
None

Borders already crossed:
Chiasso VG 🇨🇭 - Como S. Giovanni 🇮🇹
Basel St Johann 🇨🇭 - St. Louis 🇫🇷

Trieste to Ravières in a day. But due to France having such lousy timetables, this routes through Switzerland. It is ages since I crossed northern Italy by train, so I am looking forward to these trips!

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/46.590957/8.992310

Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro filmed earlier in Trieste
https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/2qVxVCnCRqCciKnzfYPsDf

Today I am making the very well known cross-Europe trip - Trieste Centrale - Nuits-sous-Ravières

But because - of course! - nothing works with the timetables in France, I am going via Switzerland rather than direct from Italy to France

#CrossBorderRail live stream - 3/12/2026, 5:54:29 AM

PeerTube

This one should strike FYRA into you!

#CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 37 of 86
FR 9718
07:07 Trieste Centrale - Milano Centrale 11:15
Trenitalia

Train type: AnsaldoBreda ETR 700 EMU, 7 carriages
⚡️ (3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc)
🚲: ⛔️
🦽: ✅ (lift on platforms)
🛜: ✅ (but 😡 it needs a silly registration)
🍽️: ✅
🧳: 😐 (there's only one small rack for large bags, were it full it would struggle)️
🧽: 🙂
Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €13)

FR 9718
07:07 Trieste Centrale - Milano Centrale 11:15

Distance: 401.9km
Average speed: 97km/h

10 stops:
Monfalcone
Trieste Airport
Portogruaro-Caorle
Venezia Mestre
Padova
Vicenza
Verona Porta Nuova
Desenzano del Garda-Sirmione
Brescia
Milano Centrale

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/45.615913/11.487165

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#CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour

Tours in Spring 2026. Each day of the project is a Layer in the map - these should be displayed by default, or if not click the three layered diamonds icon "Open browser" to the left side of the map. The icons are all for borders, roughly coloured to differentiate the borders. A cross through a track means NO TRAINS CAN RUN. A cross through trains but not track means TRAINS CAN RUN BUT NO PASSENGER TRAINS. And TRAIN AND TRACK (no crosses) means there is a passenger service.

uMap

The ticket control here on this Frecciarossa is sensible, for a compulsory reservation train (OK, comp res is silly, but bear with me)

The train manager has the seat plan on their device, so they can see which seats are newly occupied at every station, and only goes to check those passengers' tickets

Why does SNCF not do that on TGVs?

Because it'd mean the train manager has to go along the train after every station and that's too much effort?

So how is the ex-FYRA ETR 700?

It's OK

The interior is rather bland, the colours resembling something from a doctor's surgery. There is noticeable noise from the motors, more than in some other EMUs. But the ride is smooth, the seats fine, the wifi works

Trenitalia promises new faster WiFi. And it’s indeed solid.

The downside?

Italian businessmen screaming “Pronto!” at their Teams calls

(There is a quiet zone somewhere I assume but I was allocated this)

ex-FYRA AnsaldoBreda ETR 700 on the Brescia - Milano high speed line at 250km/h is smooooooth

These trains might have had reliability issues, but someone designed some good suspension! Either that or the track is impeccable

#CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 38 of 87
RE 2363
11:25 Milano Centrale - Milano Lambrate 11:31
Trenord

Train type: Hitachi Rock EMU, 5 double deck carriages
⚡️ (3kV dc)
🚲: ✅ (inc e-bike charging)
🦽: ✅ (step free)
🛜: ❓ (trip too short, did not check)
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 😐 (odd design, vestibules large, luggage racks tiny)️
🧽: 😐 (graffiti on the windows)
Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

Distance: 3.6km
Average speed: 36km/h

1 stop:
Milano Lambrate

This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#16/45.484939/9.222083

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Milano, briefly
Even time for a little refreshment at Lambrate
Hitachi Rock does have e-bike charging. That’s neat!

Last decent connection Zürich - Dijon today: 15:34 (and every Zürich - Paris TGV goes through Dijon)

80 minutes later I’ve still got a passable connection Zürich - Berlin! 🤯

@jon About the half of the Zürich to Paris TGV call at Belfort-Montbéliard TGV instead of Dijon.
@wrzlbrnft Right, as does the last one of the day. Which *MAKES NO SENSE*, nor Besançon Franche Comté TGV where some also stop. Because you cannot connect to anywhere from either!

@jon @wrzlbrnft Wait there are direct TGVs from Zurich de Besançon Franche Comté?!?

(I agree, it makes no sense, but it would be very useful to me personally, and a big news that I somehow missed)

@pblilou Damn, maybe I was wrong, I thought I had seen one, but now cannot find it. But @wrzlbrnft will know!
@jon @pblilou There are…:
@wrzlbrnft @jon So strange, this is what the SBB app shows me… I’m confused
@pblilou @jon Argh! I looked for Belfort-Montbéliard TGV, not for Besançon Franche-Comté… désolée 😰