Dan Fixes Coin-OpsMar 12

Starting to understand why folk block Brave users.

Was chatting on the Island about the slopbot attack, mentioned and linked to a great article by a Fedi person about mitigating slopbots, Brave Dude says yo is this article gibberish for anyone else, I say are you using Brave, he says yeah, I say yeah that'll be the problem and link him to https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/ 'cause I know that this particular Fedi person blocks Brave browser by default.

Dude then proceeds to try to argue with ME about how you can turn off the scams and yeah the CEO is bad but everybody is bad, and I'm like... dude that's not my website, I don't know why you're telling me this. Pop firefox or something on there if you wanna read it, otherwise don't worry about it 'cause I'm too lazy to bother blocking brave on my own site.

But, like, I've very definitely noticed that with other software, when folk go "Yo check this out, these are the horrifying reasons why I don't use it / it's a big scam," most people go "Oh shit what're you using instead gimme recs," but brave bros will pour out an essay about why the scams don't matter because it's just such a good browser (chrome with a hat on)

Stop using Brave Browser

Seriously.

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Show threadDan Fixes Coin-OpsMar 12

So like, I don't personally block brave mostly out of laziness but also out of a sense of... most people don't know it's bad because most people don't really know shit about fuck

And I don't even mean that in a bad way, I'm not saying oh folks are ignorant, I mean I guess probably some are, whatever, but THE WORLD IS SO ENORMOUSLY FULL OF THINGS and 99.9999999% of those things will escape the attention of anyone who doesn't rely on those things in their day to day normal life

Like I come on here and I see stuff like, everybody knows substack is a nazi bar, everybody knows brave is crypto scams and fraud and homophobia, everybody knows this and that

nobody knows

everybody HERE knows, sure, but outside of the Here where something daft like three-quarters of people run their own website and nearly half use linux and we're basically THOROUGHLY UNREPRESENTATIVE OF BROADER SOCIETY, a bunch of edge cases writhing in a bag, Nestle are still in business, and d'you think everybody who buys a Crunch bar does it with the full knowledge of two million starved-to-death babies, it is Not Normal To Know That

and yeah people "should" know, but they don't, so we can't go around assuming that the people who use a thing are weighing their options and making an informed choice to go "Yes, I want the cryptocurrency homophobe scam browser, that's definitely what I want" rather than "This lets me block ads."

Of course there are edge cases like The Guy Discussed Above but I think those are genuinely, like, vocal minority. So yeah if I do end up doing something on my websites that targets Brave specifically then it's gonna be, like, a "Hey change your browser because of these reasons" banner or something rather than a total block/redirect, because most people genuinely don't know and here on fedi we REALLY overestimate how much stuff people actually know

Show threadTiny Toy DragonMar 12
@ifixcoinops I used to use brave as a chrome alternative for when i needed chromium stuff until i found out what the CEO was about

And then i found out about vivaldi, which is (sadly) chromium based, but it's run by one of the OG Opera folks and is... quiet?

Like, it gets development, but so far the team has been vocally against shoving LLMs into the browser ( https://vivaldi.com/blog/a-i-browsers-the-price-of-admission-is-too-high/ ) has a inbuilt adblocker, and no crypto. I think there's a VPN that i saw offered at one point but I dismissed it months ago and I can't find it easily now?

But it's also been super nice for wrangling my three billion tabs, the session manager has been nice, the mobile app has been consistent, and so far ive not heard of any dramas about the people running it.

It also seems to go under the radar of many but ive been quite enjoying it.

(tho if anyone knows of any problems PLEASE do let me know >.< )
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Show thread🍋 Superball ☀️Mar 13

@toydragon I’m also on Vivaldi and am happy with it so far, given a lack of any other semi-reasonable options . . . ? 👀🤷🏻‍♀️

@ifixcoinops

Show threadshomMar 13
@superball I've been very happy with Zen browser, which is based on Firefox and it's community driven (they've been around a couple years and really on it with updates) and not doing horrific corporate shit. I also use Vivaldi for some things, glad they're around and have taken a browser is for browsing stance, same as Zen.
@toydragon @ifixcoinops
Zen Browser

Beautifully designed, privacy-focused, and packed with features.

Show thread🍋 Superball ☀️Mar 13

@shom Interesting. . . . Looks like the only search-engine choices are Google, DuckDuckGo, and Bing, though . . . ? I like Maapl.

@toydragon @ifixcoinops

Show threadTiny Toy DragonMar 13
@superball @ifixcoinops @shom if only there was some way to add more search engines to the list.
Show thread🍋 Superball ☀️

@toydragon Not in the phone app. Why ridicule rather than choose kind words? Derision makes me less inclined to follow a suggestion (or an account).

@ifixcoinops @shom

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Show threadshomMar 14

@superball interesting, I didn't think they had a mobile app so I went looking and I believe this is the one you found. It may be good but I can't vouch for it, from the app store description:

Disclaimer: Zen Browser | Simple browsing is a standalone mobile app that is not associated with any mobile or desktop browser.

Zen Browser based on Firefox is desktop only. I use Firefox on mobile (Android) but Firefox also has an iOS app, but on iOS all browsers are Safari under the hood.

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Show thread🍋 Superball ☀️Mar 14
@shom yeah, that’s the one I tried.