JensSpahnpastaMar 13

Your Phone is an Entire Computer

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Show threadSteve
They have been since the beginning.
That’s literally why I got an OG Motorola Droid. I said to myself “I can have a full computer in my pocket!”
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Show threadJensSpahnpastaMar 13
The whole point of the article is that the new MacBooks are running on iPhone hardware. And that therefore there’s no reason for you not being able to install MacOS on your iPhone. Even your old droid was locked down and you were not able to install a real OS which would have given you the freedom to run what you want without restrictions
Show threadSteveMar 13
Its wasn’t. I rooted it, installed a few OS’s, it even ran Linux. Since the very beginning, the only limits on smartphones have been what software ‘they’ want you to run.
Show threadvoidsignalMar 13
This. But Marketing has been very good at saying “this: phone, that: computer. not same thing”. So many times I heard “Oh but how do you want to do that on a phone?”. It’s not a phone. It has never been a phone.
Show threadSpaceNoodleMar 13
The only difference is UI. I operate my phone in my hand with my thumb, not on my lap or on a desk from a keyboard.
Show threadTrippinMallardMar 14
And the hardware. Your phone requires much harder power optimization in order to have a usable battery life. Same for size and heat dissipation. Also politics. Public cellular is tied to identity. It is structurally hostile to user-controlled, fully open, deeply optimized devices because the radio stack is certification-heavy, operator-governed, and privacy-hostile.
Show threadSpaceNoodleMar 14

For the first point, that sort of engineering is more necessary for a smaller form factor, but can absolutely be done for other computer hardware. Applying these lessons to laptops yields some amazing laptopsz for example.

As for the second point, that’s just one component in the system. You can attach a cellular modem to a PC. They just don’t tend to be built in directly.

Show threadTrippinMallardMar 14

I’m emphasizing breaking free from identity ties to devices enforced by the hardware radio. Not adding it to all devices.

It also limits open source competition in the phone market.

Show threadSpaceNoodleMar 14
I think you’re having a different discussion than we were in this thread, then.
Show threadartyomMar 14
I remember one time I had a coworker sit down next to me with her MacBook, iPhone, iPad and iWatch and that was an “aha!” moment for me. She had spent like 5x more than she would have if 1 or 2 devices could do all of those things.
Show threadroofuskitMar 13
I had an Atrix 4G back in the day.
Show threadPetter1Mar 13
For me, it was around 2013 an iPad nano, thinking how awesome having an iPhone with unlimited internet would be, because I could listen anything on demand on the go Then I got my 4s as first self bought iPhone.
I realised, how macOS like it is, as I had jailbroken it.
Show threadpenguinMar 13

I went to the Verizon store to buy an iPhone when the droid first launched, the rep said “you don’t want that phone, check this one out” and showed me the droid. So glad I didn’t get roped into that ecosystem.

I still miss CyanogenMod dearly…

Show threadSteveMar 13
Yah. It had customizations nobody has anymore.
Show threadshortwavesurferMar 14
I am actually very, very, very seriously looking at post-market OS since it is mainline Linux on a phone.