Alexia Mar 13
Systemd has denied to revise their policy in regards to AI.

they've also marked evidence that people gave regarding its effectiveness as off-topic, then locked the conversation.

I believe the authors have not understood the weight of the issue. Later this day, I will begin drafting an open letter to Systemd's authors under the Starlight Network umbrella of projects. EDIT: or perhaps I will take a different approach. There's many more issues I want to talk about.
Disallow usage of generative AI to write code · Issue #41085 · systemd/systemd

Component No response Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe Generative AI is actively killing people, driving up costs, and plagiarizing work from many open source developer...

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Show threadraineMar 13
@alexia genuine question, why is this such a big problem?
Show threadAlexia Mar 13
@alreadydeadxd There are many reasons, but to cut it short, the effects of the continued use of Generative AI go far beyond just code quality. It introduces licensing ambiguity, contributes to devaluing software development as a skill, and encourages increased energy use and expansion of data centers which has shown to negatively affect marginalized communities.
Show threadraineMar 13

@alexia
ah, i see, the code quality argument is really starting to fall apart in 2026, haha

i don't know that much about the license ambiguity, but to be honest i don't care that much either, maybe it's because i think all code should be open source, and copyright shouldn't exist, lol. nevertheless, i'm aware things don't work like that in our current dystopia, which sucks

i've always took the devaluation of software development as a skill to be just marketing and tech bro hype, to do ai-assisted programming properly you still need to have all the knowledge a software developer that doesn't use ai would have in the first place, you can't just be like "claude, build systemd or go to jail" or whatever

the energy consumption and data center situation is worrisome, it could be done in a way more sustainable manner, but when did big corporations care about the environment and marginalized communities, am i right? i also feel like people tend to overemphasize this issue in particular, it's not the only case of corporations and/or government being evil at the expense of others, not the biggest such issue by far, and not the only problem in which the population/consumers are supporting bad things happening through their behaviour. for example, if you complain about how data centers are bad for the local communities and the environment, but then go to the supermarket and buy some beef, i don't even want to talk to you, haha

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@alreadydeadxd
> if you complain about how data centers are bad for the local communities and the environment, but then go to the supermarket and buy some beef, i don't even want to talk to you

First, this is whataboutism: people do not have to behave perfectly to criticize bad behavior, otherwise no one would ever be able to criticize anything.

Second, I've been a vegetarian my whole life. I have never eaten beef. Will you listen to my criticisms of LLMs now?

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Show threadraineMar 13

@skyfaller yeah, i get that, i just find it very disheartening to see how some people suddenly develop more empathy and environmental awareness when it's favorable to their arguments against something they already dislike, but then fail to keep up those same values when it comes to other issues, it's almost like they never cared to begin with

of course, i'll listen to your criticisms of llms

Show threadNelsonMar 13

@alreadydeadxd The really short version is that the tech industry was already an accelerating environmental disaster:

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/why-we-need-a-speed-limit-for-the-internet/

LLMs caused the tech industry to give up on all of their sustainability/emissions goals. At a time when we need to be zeroing out emissions from every source, LLMs and techbros are doing their part to make the world uninhabitable.

The climate crisis really ought to be enough to end the conversation on LLMs. I resent having to come up with other reasons.

Why We Need a Speed Limit for the Internet

The energy use of the internet can only stop growing when energy sources run out, unless we impose self-chosen limits.

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Show threadraineMar 13
@skyfaller i'll read the article
Show threada very weeny construct 💀Mar 16

@skyfaller wow this toot is 🔥🔥🔥

immediately i want to boost it but i don't want your conversation partner to get dogpiled if it's popular

definitely post the same sentiments standalone or if you already have pls point me at it