jaykrownMar 13

I'm happy that oil prices are going up

https://lemmy.world/post/44197528

I'm happy that oil prices are going up - Lemmy.World

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Show threadIconoclastMar 13
You know whose hurt by high prices? Poor people. Guess whose not hurt by them? Rich people.
Show threadCerebralHawksMar 13

Exactly. Based on this, and based on OP’s other responses, OP is basically saying “I want poor people to suffer so rich people can make more money” (off of new car sales with more efficient engines, or electric).

So my question for them is: is the income divide not great enough? If not, when will it be?

Show threadpet1tMar 13
That’s mainly a problem for car-brained people. There are other modes of transportation, you know.
Show threaddoingthestuffMar 13
People in dense cities who only drive are car brained. People who live where there are zero other options are simply getting to the store or to work the only way they can.
Show threadgrueMar 13
People who live where there are [legitimately] zero other options – i.e., actually rural – are a negligible minority. 80% of the population has no excuse, and trying to “whatabout the other 20%” is a strawman argument.
Show threadBassTurd
This might be true in some European countries, but it’s not in the US. You don’t have to be rural to not have public transportation options.
Mar 13 at 1:21pmWeb
Show threadgrueMar 13

You don’t have to be rural to not have public transportation options.

But it does mean the lack of public transportation is illegitimate.

Show threadBassTurdMar 13
How so? It doesn’t exist. I can’t just will it into existence. It legitimately is not an option.
Show threadgrueMar 13
That’s a consequence of your and your neighbors’ failure to elect people who would govern properly, not a result of transit or density somehow being inherently non-viable.
Show threadVardøgorMar 14
ah right, it’s my fault
Show threadWoodScientistMar 14

Even in suburbia public transport is perfectly viable. You can set up networks of high-frequency stops places decently far apart, so the average person is maybe half a mile from the nearest stop. Then people can use micro-mobility options like scooters to cover that last mile.

And if there aren’t bike lanes or places for people to safely ride scooters? A city can create those overnight with a few traffic cones. There’s just no political will to do so. When gas is $7 a gallon, that might change.