EU states must provide proper ID for transgender citizens

The EU's top court on Thursday said the bloc's countries must provide trans citizens IDs reflecting their "lived gender." The case was referred to the ECJ by Bulgaria, which sought clarity on the issue.

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-states-must-provide-proper-id-for-transgender-citizens/a-76336447

EU states must provide proper ID for transgender citizens

The EU's top court on Thursday said the bloc's countries must provide trans citizens IDs reflecting their "lived gender." The case was referred to the ECJ by Bulgaria, which sought clarity on the issue.

Deutsche Welle
@eunews or, maybe it's time to stop mentioning people's gender on ID documents. Like, completely eliminate it. There's no actual reason for it.

i too love when a thing that makes me feel euphoric and accomplished that i achieved it is considered "unnecessary" to some tumblrite lunatic that demands it to be erased because they are hurt by it

sorry bub, you will not be taking that sweet victory of mine.

sorry that you're too much of a coward who doesn't fight back but i'm built different and said legal gender is, to me, a proof of winning an important battle much like soldiers get medals

@m000gletje @eunews I'm not hurt by your achievement. I just don't understand what gender markers do on identity documents anyway - how do they contribute to their function. They just don't.

do awards need a purpose other than be an award for achieving something? does everything need to be super deep to you in order to be deemed useful? so just because you don't get it, that means no one should be allowed to have it?

that's a mentality of a fucking 5 year old who didn't get their favourite toy and now wants everyone to stop playing with their toys

@m000gletje @eunews To be honest, I never thought of my ID documents as some sort of award. More like, something I need to carry on me to show I'm authorised to drive or to travel between countries.

I do understand that you felt a sense of achievement when you won the right to have the institutional recognition of your true gender. I acknowledge my privilege in that I did not have to fight the same fight you did.

I also don't think that barrier should have been there in the first place. Are you going to resent a future in which nobody has to fight for their true gender to be institutionally recognised, just because they don't have to fight the same way you did?

"if i can't have it, no one will" mentality, again are some of you just stuck in that phase of development or something?

my problem is that this piece of shit community hates people who actually do try their best to transition and win against the government - hell we now start calling people on HRT and post-surgery "transmeds", as if the very core tenet of transness that is physical transition is now Evil

it feels almost targetted to erase people who do actually transition in favor of those who chose not to, and consider them superior and "more inclusive". and i'm not taking that bullshit, i've been erased as a trans man several times by supposedly "my allies and comrades", i will not let them now erase me as a trans person who actually puts in effort to transition, including picking hard battles; because that desire of mine is stronger than bureaucracy

@m000gletje @eunews I'm done explaining how I see it, I don't think we will agree on that point.

I'm glad you got the institutional recognition you deserve and I'm sorry you had to fight for it.

i'm sorry you need trans people who fought for it and are proud of it to give up that achievement so you can feel better about yourself
@m000gletje @eunews @pq1r Jesus, what did you jump down this guy's throat for? He isn't exactly acting like a Transphobe? What's the need to pick a fight with someone who isn't looking for one?

i'm not taking bullshit from anyone who wants to take away what i fought for

including trans people themselves, you're not my comrades!!! fucking look how your kind treats fellow trans men or people who actually get to medically transition, just because we share a struggle doesn't make me your friend

@m000gletje @eunews @pq1r "Your kind" is crazy work like, The whole point of this movement is to move past the Binary gender system and get to a point where it doesn't matter anymore, anyone's free to do what they wish, and getting rid of Gender markers on ID is a step towards that, but instead of having a nice conversation about it you just went full attack mode on some random guy?

Chill out

i don't need to feel sympathy for someone just because youre trans

and yes, YOUR KIND, because the wider "trans community" has done an amazing job in excluding me throughout my entire life because i transitioned to what many of you deem "malicious gender"

also i couldnt care any less about "beyond the binary" when yall fucking fail to show up for your supposed binary siblings - or is transness now only for nonbinaries? and trans men/trans women need to go somewhere else?

you will rip my gender from my dead cold hands, over my dead fucking body, i fought for it and i'm proud of it, and i advise you to buckle up and do the same instead of trying to take away others' effort

@m000gletje @eunews @pq1r Yeah I went to protest the shit Bathroom laws in the UK because I "don't give a shit"

Look, I don't know what to tell you but "winning" an internet flame war won't win you any points with anyone, especially not on Mastodon. You're not gonna exactly win anyone over by shouting and punching them in the face when they make a comment.

I'm not gonna bother responding anymore cause you're just seeing Red, I hope your day gets better whatever's going on.

i dont need to feel sympathy for a trans person just cause theyre trans, this shitty community harmed me more than the evil "cishet estabilishment" yall love talking shit about so much

keep hoping for my obituary, loser