ordnance_qf_17_pounderCrimson Desert Includes Denuvo DRM, To Nobody’s Delight
This is what pushes me to piracy. I had no intention of pirating Crimson Desert, because I think it looks good and I’d support the devs by buying it. But I’m not interested in buying a license to play a handicapped version of the game. I’ll just play something else until they remove Denuvo.
Also, fuck the shills across gaming sites celebrating the addition of Denuvo because “pirates are just mad they can’t get it free on day one”. People who pay get fucked over more than pirates do. We pay more for a worse version of the game than pirates eventually get for free.
Denuvo is a deal breaker.
RhoeriSo you blame the developer and not the pirates for this?
This is the equivalent of trumpers crying about “illegal” immigrants and not the people that hire them.
Go ahead and boycott the game over this. I’m sure the amount of money they’re making from all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay for a change will more than make up for it.
YliasterExcept when people provide you with evidence and reasoning you just go “lmao” and leave it at that too.
I laugh at shit I find funny. If that makes someone a bootlicker, I hope for your sake that you have no sense of humor whatsoever.
It’s completely logical to me. A thing can be two things. Maybe look up a thing called nuance.
Laughing about people crying because of an anti-piracy feature instead of being pissed at the pirates- then going so far as to say “well, they weren’t going to buy anyway!” as an argument is fucking hilarious to me.
It doesn’t mean I have nothing to say about it . Not doors it make my stance in bad faith. I just think your argument is ridiculous.
Logic is objective, so saying it’s logical to you is illogical.
A sense of humour is irrelevant to a discussion from a logical standpoint. Furthermore, we literally have data and studies that show that piracy doesn’t hurt the sales of games— when provided with this evidence in the comments, you just “laughed” at it.
You ask for reasoning/evidence, and when provided, just laugh at it. Laughter doesn’t dismiss evidence.
I laughed at the argument that piracy doesn’t hurt the sales of games- THEREFORE it should be allowed.
It’s not about hurting the sales of the games. They weren’t going to buy it anyway. But for those that PAY for it. It’s a slap in the face. I should get to play it for free too, right?
Where do you draw the line?
All game should be free! Developers don’t need paychecks! It’s a service to the people!
LMAO!
The consensus isn’t a dislike of DRM in general. Denuvo is especially bad because of how much a performance hog it is. The idea that it’s protection will be circumvented eventually but the people who bought copies will have worse performance is the frustrating part. Additionally, Linux users who change their proton version can be slapped with lock outs(usually temp) on games they purchased with no recourse.
It doesn’t hurt the sales of the games, that’s an unscientific assertion you are asserting that directly contradicts research.
If you want to play it for free, nobody’s stopping you from pirating it too. It seems like resentment here rather than logical rigour in your argument. It’s not a slap in the face for gamers who want to support the developers. If you don’t, there’s no reason why you should be obligated to purchase the game.
Games are made and developed for-profit, they only continue production if they are profitable. They’ve remained profitable despite piracy forever.
This has nothing to do with the argument that all games should be free or that developers don’t need paychecks. It’s an entirely different set of claims which nobody is making here.
samus12345Yes I do because they actively chose to make their game shittier for people who purchase legitimate copies. You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they’re going to pay for it now?
all the would-be pirates now having to actually pay
You think pirates are going to pay for this shit? They were never going to pay to begin with, what makes you think they’re going to pay for it now?
They’re not.
Way to contradict yourself in literally the next comment. Clearly you are a shill and not a serious person.
Pirates weren’t going to buy anyway is your argument so therefore just let them pirate the game.
Thats your argument?
So that’s a slap in the face of paying customers. Why not just make the game fee for everyone then? If stupid “what if’s” are allowed.
I’m. It contradicting shit. You’re crying about a protection the developer put in place to stop people from PLAYING THE GAME FOR FREE. And not crying about the people that caused them to have to do it.
Fucking laughable.
Stop sabotaging games for paying customers is the argument. It’s not complicated. You are obviously more interested in trying to stick it to pirates than getting an optimal experience for your money. Pirates will still play it for free in the end anyway.
Pirates didn’t “cause” anyone to do anything. The developers did it themselves after buying into Denuvo’s scam. Thousands and thousands of dollars paid every month to make up for the unknowable number of “lost sales”. I guess there’s one thing Denuvo does well.
Also, you did contradict yourself. Will the pirates buy the game or will they not? Make your mind up.
For denuvo to adversely effect your gameplay, you need to be running some seriously outdated hardware. It sucked the life out of AC Origins, sure…. Almost ten years ago….
It’s basically a non-issue now.
The only people crying about it now are would-be pirates that never planned to buy it in the first place. They are people pretending to be on a crusade against the «evil» Denuvo but in reality just angry they now can’t easily pirate the game anymore.
So Denuvo “basically” doesn’t cause any performance issues, and if it does, its the users fault for having lower end hardware? That’s just ridiculous.
Calling all critics of Denuvo pirates is nonsense. Not all people who buy games are okay with mandatory online checks, performance hits, and curtailing of mod support.
Speaking of things that Trumpers do… Falsely accuse all opponents of being domestic terrorists or radical leftists and refuse to accept that they might be wrong.
Speaking of things that Trumpers do… Falsely accuse all opponents of being domestic terrorists or radical leftists and refuse to accept that they might be wrong.
What if I told you that’s exactly what they do and get very mad at you calling it out? Where they have an alt also do that to you? @[email protected] got banned from a community for doing that, and then cried fowl for them breaking the rules.
While still insisting I’m an alt of some users. Medication and therapy isn’t enough for him. Boomer Facebook brainrot.
QuantumTickle@[email protected] 's entire persona is to argue with people, then get mad at them and stomp away.lololol I’m glad so many people here are downvoting him. He’s finally realizing that people aren’t putting up w his bullshit anymore. He’ll get banned from somewhere and then just say variations of “I didn’t like them anyway so I blocked them!” Check out his mod history, it’s a wild ride. lol
I’m not allowed to argue with you here or I’ll get banned, but do go ahead and bad faith your way through the entirety of the ToS agreement.
I’m well aware of who moderates this comm and the bias in .world. So enjoy the freedoms that comes with preach bullshit to the pasture.
I won’t apologize for having a different opinion, despite the angry kids that it outrages. A different opinion is no reason to remain silent.
Enjoy the hive.
Just accept that your argumentative style and habit of putting people down are unwelcome here. So much of your post history is of you complaining. You’re being negative and toxic to the Lemmy community. Look at all your downvotes in this thread.
Your mod history doesn’t pain a pretty picture! lol
Doesn’t that tell you something about what people on Lemmy think of you and the way you talk to people? You need to take a break from Lemmy or something. Are you this angry in your real life? Eww…
You’re saying I have “put people down”….
LMAO!
and my mod history only proves how the unpopular opinion isn’t welcome on lemmy. I’m not here to make friends and get karma. I simply don’t agree with popular opinion.
You all are the ones that lost your shit. Maybe reread the discussion. And leave your bias at the door. It might read differently.
Who exactly “wins” anything here?
The dev pay for denuvo licenses an doesn’t gain enough sales to make up for it - lose.
The pirate waits longer to play the game - lose.
The paying customer gets an inferior product - lose.
Again, ten years ago there was a performance hit. Not it’s not even noticeable unless you have severely outdated hardware.
The only people whining about this are people that would have pirated the game. Tough shit.
The people who worked their asses off to make a good game deserve to be paid for it. That’s who wins.
I soundly expect Antone here to give a shit about that though. Enjoy your little memes.
Which programmer, game designer, graphics designer, voice actor, musician or what have you is paid how much more because they added denuvo? After the fact, mind you, so all the contracts and wages were agreed long ago.
Which programmer, game designer, graphics designer, voice actor, musician or what have you is paid how much more because they added denuvo?
Which programmer, game designer, graphics designer, voice actor, musician or what have you is paid how much more because they added denuvo?
He can’t answer because he doesn’t want people to play games, he just wants people to pay for DRM spyware.
Dude, a good portion of your entire comment history is other to, or about me.
Get a life.
I’m sure all the people here are also targeting you here too, couldn’t be you at all. Yawn.
No, it’s just you that follows me around, commenting to people I’m in conversations with. You have a problem dude.
The majority of your comment history is you following me around. It’s time admins got involved.
ButtonMcLemmingNo because I’m cooped up in my house, still living with my parents, still haven’t graduated from college, and still haven’t got a job, corporate shill.
@[email protected] also just just wants to argue with people because he’s so unhappy w his life. lololol
Then he tells on anyone who disagrees with him! He’s an authoritarian bootlicker through and through.
I’m not discussing this with you. You report people for disagreeing with you.