falsehoods youtubers believe about "AI"

hearing gullible 20-somethings say "this technology DOES have good use-cases, like in medicine for example…"

is going to turn me into the fucking Joker

@SnoopJ Does the protein folding one count as not a good use case?

@OliviaVespera it is a good use of machine learning

the discussion is about generative AI like Large Language Models (LLM) or audio, image and video generators that are trained on copyrighted material

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@davidak @OliviaVespera @SnoopJ
Does anyone know of a good list that differentiates between the multiple types of "AI" technologies? LLM vs. MoE vs. …?
That would be helpful in such discussions...
@musevg @davidak @OliviaVespera @SnoopJ to me the main distinction between LLMs (Chat bots) and other forms of AI (machine learning) is that in machine learning there is some objective training data to be trained on (and with a non training set of data to validated against) whereas all an LLM does is predict the most likely set of words in a sequence based on its training set of words.
So in a medical context the model is tested and compared against clinical data or human expert judgement. An LLM applied to a medical question just comes up with plausible sentences.

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LLM Boosters have been quite belligerent about trying to conflate all of them, mainly to lump the stuff that might plausibly work some day in with their bullshit fabricators.

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@musevg you would have to go pretty deep into the topic to understand all the different approaches

Wikipedia has probably a good neutral overview

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence

and here LLMs specifically

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model

it is a big research field going back to 1943

i think the technology and research is not the problem, but for-profit companies acting unethical by ignoring copyright and making billions from the stolen work of (small) artists

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Artificial intelligence - Wikipedia

@davidak @OliviaVespera @SnoopJ
Back in the day, we had expert systems, PROLOG, LISP.

Now I'm just looking for the right terms to discern the different types of "AI"… I guess, image creators like Midjourney and music generators like Suno aren't LLMs. Or are they? And the correct term for "AI" used to analyze images (medical or geo/spatial) is...?

@musevg LLM is for text and the big LLMs are multimodal, which means they also can work with image and audio, like you can speak to it, show something with your webcam and it can understand you and recognize it and answer you with voice, way more natural than Text to Speech (like OpenAI ChatGPT Voice Mode)

https://chatgpt.com/features/voice

those models predict one token after another

the models to generate media from text are diffusion models.

but there are now language diffusion models.....

ChatGPT Voice mode

With voice mode, you can talk with ChatGPT—practice languages, brainstorm ideas, or get instant answers. Just tap the mic and start the conversation, anytime, anywhere.

@musevg i think usable terms to separate those two areas is Generative AI vs Machine Learning

where GenAI is the stealing slop machine and ML is what scientists do or pattern recognition in products like OCR

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@musevg @davidak @OliviaVespera @SnoopJ

I think the name you are looking for is somewhere around "deep nerural network", "recuring neural network" and "artufucal neural network".

So "artificial deep recuring neural networks" maybe?

Or maybe just "neural networks"?