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@thoralf Your issue is with GrapheneOS rather than 3 companies making a system which will ban using GrapheneOS from being used to run European banking/government apps?

@GrapheneOS My issue is with someone pulling punches below the waist line.

@thoralf Where have we done any such thing? Two of these companies have misled people about GrapheneOS for years falsely claiming it isn't usable by regular people, isn't compatible with apps or isn't a privacy project.

There's one of their users replying to you who has been misled about the inaccurate claims they make about both GrapheneOS and their products. They wrongly believe they're using the easier to use option because they've been misled.

How is posting accurate info underhanded?

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617

@thoralf Can you be specific about which part of what we said you think is inaccurate or misleading? These companies are building and promoting a system which is going to ban using GrapheneOS AND most other operating systems while permitting their own products. It will only permit devices and operating systems of the companies participating in it.

Companies forming a cartel locking out competition isn't legal and it definitely isn't ethical.

GrapheneOS (@[email protected])

We strongly oppose the Unified Attestation initiative and call for app developers supporting privacy, security and freedom on mobile to avoid it. Companies selling phones should not be deciding which operating systems people are allowed to use for apps. https://uattest.net/

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@GrapheneOS Where did I say that you said anything inaccurate or misleading?

I said that your behavior is arrogant and appalling.
And with every new post you prove me right.

(You don’t even see it, apparently.)

@thoralf We find the behavior of these companies to be appalling including their attacks on our project and team. Creating an anti-competitive attestation system which bans GrapheneOS is unacceptable and we're not going to allow it. Once there's a single app permitting their products but banning GrapheneOS, we plan to start working on a lawsuit. If you dislike our thread about Unified Attestation then you'll probably also dislike filing a lawsuit but what matters is stopping this proceeding.

@GrapheneOS You might be right. I don’t know.

But why should I even care after you have repeatedly shown a behavior, which I dislike so much, that you are already disqualified in my eyes?

Learn some manners.
Apologize to those you have wronged and then, only then will I have a look whether your arguments have some ground to stand on.

Until then: Have a nice life!

frutiger Mar 11

@thoralf @GrapheneOS the irony is that all of your comments are positively dripping with egotism.

@frutiger @GrapheneOS That‘s the very nature of an op, isn’t it?
It reflex my point of view.

And that’s all.

I never claimed anything else.
I never forced anyone to follow me.
I never insulted anyone.

I simply stated my opinion.

To me they act extremely arrogant.

They could have ignored me.
Yet they chose to attack me, to claim that I said/did things I never did.

Yes, my dislike for them is growing by every post they make.